not so...my oldest chose to go in the navy-perhaps he thought it was his calling?--and he could have gone to any college he chose. he went straight out of high school.
he re-enlists in a few weeks. we've got the best military you can imagine-you think it's the best because it's filled with morons and unskilled labor?

!!!!



lol

spending advantage = important... but where was the Republican $$ in this election? I don't see why the GOP allowed this to happen. They have access to plenty of funds, too.

media bias: not true. Simply not true. I don't know why so many people are using this as an excuse today.

Dannie...The Philski has completely lost it.lol

I recognize your point Z. Do you think your son is more the exception or more the rule?

I meant Lincoln the man vs Obama the man
any further debate will have to wait until the FRAUD does or doesn't to what he promised to do for y'all!

Easy Danzig, he isn't saying all of them, Phil is smart enough to know and understand that there are educated/smart/intelligent/keen individuals with the armed forces, he isn't saying that. I have met some REAL comedy people that have went into the armed forces, and from my high school, the top of the pile wasn't enlisting in the armed forces, the bottom was

I was skating a fine line by writing that, just basing it on people *I* know that enlisted. Another question I have... do we NEED the best military in the world at this point, which we do have?

Why did he choose the Navy over college (or one of the military academies)?

Great job.


Really....calling them bottom of the pile. A lot of times in school smart kids fly under the radar because of problems you don't know about. Sometimes the "real" smart kids are the problem.

You and The Philski have greatly disappointed me.

I just cant see how anyone would believe the media ISNT biased :zz:

My Lord! Obama was made out to look like a Savior in the media and McCain was made out to look like a old fart who will drop over next week.


And I VERY much agree with Dannie about the military.. It is extremely important to our country that young, bright minds keep enlisting and that our military stays the strongest in the world. I know some young men who could have had an IVY league education and decided to enlist.

This time period is a VERY violent time... and to take the situations of the world ightly could really cause harm to our country.

well, since my husband and i both had also enlisted-i'd say everyone in the military is super intelligent!!!...seriously, going by those who we knew from back then, i'd say that you get the same overall spectrum in the military as you do in any large corporation. some top notch, some above average, average, and your fucl< ups. but it's absolutely incorrect to say only those who have no alternatives join the military. matter of fact mark (my oldest) not only just about aced the asvabs, he also had to take a second test for their nuke program, and sailed thru that as well--i mean, does anyone think that a guy could go from working at mcdonalds one day to working on a nuke power plant on a carrier the next?? there is a ton of high tech equipment in the navy, the air force...all the branches really.
my youngest also is considering the navy, he wants to be a pilot. he's hoping to get into the naval academy. he scored a 28 on the ACT as a sophomore. he's certainly not an average kid.

Sir, I meant the bottom of my graduating class based on grade point average, nothing more.

I have a friend that was not very good in school, but he has been in marines for 10 years, and he is now wealthy, smart and well rounded

I tried to laugh






but Dannie did make me laugh - she gets it-

I hope she gets it


I mean gets IT!

Holy **** Scav :zz:

The only thing we should have for our service men & women are admiration and respect.

I think I am leaving now.

I can't stand it when people come down on others in this particular way.


Does it help your own sense of self worth to talk like that?

Bottom of the pile......only dummies go to the military?



How can you do this to people who play a strong role in national defense when most of you did nothing to that end?


Fucl< you.

uh, well that answer would be 100% yes

Mort- that's not my (or Scav's) intention, and I apologize to all if my wording sounded as such. I'm just concerned with the total amount of military spending. My political opinion was influenced by it. That is the discussion at hand...

WE ARE NOT talking about that. I do nothing but respect them and admire them for what they do.

BUT

I am simply saying my observation from when I was in high school. It wasn't like the top 60% of my graduating class was even considering the military unless they had a military family

Don't go blowing this out of proportation....

I'm coming with you. Fucl< em'

Timmi-

That "fraud" is now your president elect and you really don't know enough about him to be making such a statement.

Consider being more open minded. This man may surprise you.