He is wiser than many

according to my top secret figs..lol drf z fortune will end up around 12th

Steve-Steve/Stich.
 

Peter B.I LIKE what they see and feel there more on the inside then us most, others seem to think best is chalk toplay,20 horses very hard for chalk to take small prices on last year was avery good time this year much has changed ,just as the market, step in STEVE BYKE also is derby in hydif.tv?

What the hell u just say?

hahaha

I absolutely 100% agree with your 1st paragraph, last year we had the benefit of atleast seeing the major contenders run at CD in the BC juvie. Thus we got an idea how horses performed on the surface they were running on. With the advent of poly/cushion/synthetic tracks it just further muddles the derby selection process. If comparing preps was hard enough before.

I don't mean this in a disrespectful way but anybody making a derby prediction this far out without seeing horses work at CD (this will be invaluable resource) is purely guessing if you ask me. If picking the derby winner was hard before, it is close to impossible now. But with workouts it might just give a glimmer of hope.

The horse or horses I decide on will be based on the reports I read from DRF, Bloodhorse..ect..staff, as unscientic as that may sound. I can't think of a better way to attack this derby. I don't trust one prep with the exception of the Arkansas Derby at this stage.

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I think I read it tree times trying to figure it out.. Talk about bad english.
Perhaps he's had one too many"nips" before typing that?

we need a special thread for drunk3n poosts

Beer.....!!!!!:eek:

Doesn't last yrs crop of 3yr olds Curlin, Street Sense and Any Given Saturday tower over the 2008 crop at their same stage of development this yr?

And several of those that did run had dreadful form going into the Derby; if graded winnings at 2 didn't count, they wouldn't have made the cut.

Absolutely...and the year before that. That's one of the reasons it's hard to make the "Big Brown/ Curlin 3 starts isn't enough" argument. As we know, Curlin turned into a great racehorse, but he still did manage 3rd with a troubled trip behind two that would trounce this field.

As I said above I have absolutely no idea who will be the best horse of this crop or on the 1st week of May. This year is an immense puzzle to me. I'm just mystified. The only thing concrete thing I can go on is the report by track staff on the workouts. Since I am relatively a small player I can live with that. But also the best horse does not always win the derby, as we know know Curlin is head and shoulders the best horse of the crop in 2007, Street Sense got the trip and was a CD horse for the course. Since very few have run over the strip at CD and alot of these are coming in off poly/cushion preps. This race for me is not a race I am going to invest alot of money on.

But I agree with you, any of the top 3 of last year probably would crush...I hate that word as it is over dramatic but probably crush the 2008 field.

the Churchill strip has been much maligned. a dirt horse like High Yield never fired. countless others never did either. 2006 you had Sharp Humor who was in great position around the first turn. then he broke his knee cap - end of career. ya never know on that track but it's the same for all...

^^^^ I think I need another Wilbury for interpreting purposes.

Eddie D said Hollywood Wildcat didn't handle it in the BC Distaff when she returned as defending champion. Reportedly it is an oval that not all horses can handle.

The funny part is someone just corrected him - yesterday, I think - on how Sharp Humor actually raced after the Derby, thus not ending his career.