I agree with everything you said. He dominated the game for a long time. But some of the statements made by Lucas after Antley's death were disturbing to me.

Maybe he grew tired of hearing embellished stories about Antley. I think perhaps you need to look at it at least a little from his perspective. Antley wasn't exactly the guy the media sometimes portrayed him to be. Don't get me wrong, I have a great deal of sympathy for his problems, a great deal, and I am genuinely sorry for what happened to him, and wish the media hadn't enabled him during the TC of 1999, and even said so then, but Antley didn't exactly always seperate his problems from his job. Lukas probably just got weary from hearing a whole lot of BS and sounded off. Would it have been better left unsaid? Perhaps.....but that doesn't make Lukas wrong.

Whatever happend between the two men is horrible. Antley with all the potential in the world and fell to addiction and Lukas a man who has accomplished everything in American racing but the Triple Crown. Very odd pair indeed.

I agree. Usually after someone's death people have enough class to either find something nice to say about them or nothing. D. Wayne didn't have a horse in the derby and, needing attention, thought it was a good time to publicly bring up the fact that Chris Antley never took a genuine interest in Charasmatic. Don't remember if he was asked or not.

side note.. I believe Laffit Pincay was supposed to ride Charismatic but stayed in California to ride Event of The Year who finished up the track.

I used to routinely toss his horses from my bet. Very few times has it cost me. I think he went 1 in 90 at Santa Anita. When he went to Oaklawn he turned thing around a little.

he's a terrible trainer. just look at the assistants he's employed. none of them ever accomplished much. if he was good you'd think one or two (or 1/2 dozen) of them would have become top trainers themselves.

btw: when i die i expect all of you to remain quiet.

The pagans thought the dead had more power than the living. Maybe it started there.

And no, I'm still out $25. Eric and Bob robbed me. I let it go. AS I understand it, Bold Brooklynite's wife is very sick with cancer, so I won't tempt the gods.

Success.

People now transfer that to Pletcher.

I assume that's why you don't like Lukas.

Trainers lose horses all the time. I'm not Lukas's biggest fan either but it's far from clear he is the butcher many portray him as compared to many top trainers.

As opposed to other trainers who's horses you have touted on this site?

Never challenged the facts. Wasn't about truth, it was about class.

Definately not jealous of D. Wayne Lukas. He only cost me money when I bet his horses.

I see.....it was Lukas's fault when you bet a horse he trained and it lost.

Thanks for clearing that up.

going wild got me twice..yet a have no hard feelings lol

The only problem I have with Lukas is this hard-on he has for Jockey's when it comes to the weight issue. He has no problem with a jockey basically slowly killing himself by flipping on a daily basis. He passes it off as basically the hazards that go along with the job.