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blackthroatedwind 06-26-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
I like the ugly displays the public can show and get away with , like Ive had horses bleed and been pulling them up down the lane and had assholes from the grandstand yelling dispicable stuff at me and the horse , " like hey why dont you just send that horse to the glue factory" , Ive had gamblers throw stuff at me when I was walking back to the jocks room and have heard them yell that they wish the next horse I ride would break its legs off . So lets start kicking theses people out of the grandstand for dispicible acts of behavor on the spur of the moment and while they are walking them to the door they can give them their 1000.00 fine for not being better behaved.:rolleyes:


Next I guess you won't want to take credit for this moronic post either.

Maybe if you are lending your login to others, in this case a rider, you might want to reconsider.

blackthroatedwind 06-26-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
Originally Posted by Honu
Kicking a horse is not at all part of the sport and I think they had to do something to demonstrate to the public that this is totally out of bounds. He showed in that kick a total disregard and disrespect to the horse who was a young 2YO and just as paniced and frightened as he was.



This was not posted by me.


Then how come it appeared under your name?

Evil Twin?

Cajungator26 06-26-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
Then how come it appeared under your name?

Evil Twin?

Honu, is this you?

Give me a break, Andy. :p

blackthroatedwind 06-26-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Honu, is this you?

Give me a break, Andy. :p


I'm just confused.

Danzig 06-26-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Then how come it appeared under your name?

Evil Twin?

she quoted someone else, but it didn't post right in her message...you can see the end quotes, but i guess the beginning quote part wasn't in there, so it looked like she wrote it all.

blackthroatedwind 06-26-2007 03:53 PM

Did she also, then, write that ridiculous post about throwing people out of the track?

I'm not condoning poor behavoir by fans, but there sure is a misguided approach by way too many people who work at the track about fans' rights, and who pays to put on the show. I read an article earlier this year that jockeys should read where Derek Jeter was quoted as saying, essentially, " I have never heard of a professional athlete telling the fans how to behave. "

Coach Pants 06-26-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Did she also, then, write that ridiculous post about throwing people out of the track?

I'm not condoning poor behavoir by fans, but there sure is a misguided approach by way too many people who work at the track about fans' rights, and who pays to put on the show. I read an article earlier this year that jockeys should read where Derek Jeter was quoted as saying, essentially, " I have never heard of a professional athlete telling the fans how to behave. "

It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. She was just trying to show how ridiculous the suspension is. 30 days is a bit overboard, don't you think?

Danzig 06-26-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Did she also, then, write that ridiculous post about throwing people out of the track?

I'm not condoning poor behavoir by fans, but there sure is a misguided approach by way too many people who work at the track about fans' rights, and who pays to put on the show. I read an article earlier this year that jockeys should read where Derek Jeter was quoted as saying, essentially, " I have never heard of a professional athlete telling the fans how to behave. "

well i guess she wrote that one. altho she might not think it's ridiculous!

personally, i don't act like an ass--but some choose to do so, and i'd imagine they think it's just fine--and probably funny. but you can't start tossing people out because they're idiots or say idiotic things.

Danzig 06-26-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. She was just trying to show how ridiculous the suspension is. 30 days is a bit overboard, don't you think?


i think it is. i don't think that the punishment should have been any different if it was only witnessed by one person. mob rule shouldn't apply--people called to complain, they should have said 'we're aware of the situation, and it will be handled accordingly'.

ateamstupid 06-26-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Just let the horse kick him back, and they are even.

I agree. Right in the gut.

blackthroatedwind 06-26-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. She was just trying to show how ridiculous the suspension is. 30 days is a bit overboard, don't you think?



I'll let her tell me whether or not she was serious but you may be right.

Do I think the suspension was too severe? Probably. But I also think Eibar Coa getting 10 days a few months ago in NY for using a horse as a weapon in an attempt to injure another rider was downright insane. Certainly that was far worse than what Molina did.

Danzig 06-26-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'll let her tell me whether or not she was serious but you may be right.

Do I think the suspension was too severe? Probably. But I also think Eibar Coa getting 10 days a few months ago in NY for using a horse as a weapon in an attempt to injure another rider was downright insane. Certainly that was far worse than what Molina did.

oh come on, surely you aren't saying that coas ride deserves worse punishment than kicking a horse?! i mean come on, next you'll say that stewards aren't very consistent in their rulings! why, the nerve!:rolleyes:

blackthroatedwind 06-26-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
oh come on, surely you aren't saying that coas ride deserves worse punishment than kicking a horse?! i mean come on, next you'll say that stewards aren't very consistent in their rulings! why, the nerve!:rolleyes:


I have issues.....what can I say.

Honu 06-26-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Then how come it appeared under your name?

Evil Twin?


If you look back on page 4 Bobby Fischer posted it , somehow in a acopy and paste it was acredited to me.

Honu 06-26-2007 06:25 PM

I think the punishment doesnt fit the crime. I have seen trainers yank on horses on the paddock when they wont stand still to get saddled which is where everyone can see them . I have seen trainers shank the ever loving crap out of horses when they are being unruly in the paddock and I have also seen them give a knee to the guts when they didnt think anyone saw it .
I have witnessed pony people poke horses in the eye and smack them in the head when they are on the way to the gate and the race horse is trying to mount their pony . Ive seen these things at **** hole tracks like Waterford park and the Great race place Santa Anita . The jock did something that wasnt right Ill agree but he doesnt deserve this harsh of a punishment and he sure as hell doesnt desereve to be kicked in the gut buy a 1000 lb animal. That is like saying someone should have hit your mom upside the head with a baseball bat when she spanked you for picking on your lil brother or sister.

Bobby Fischer 06-26-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
If you look back on page 4 Bobby Fischer posted it , somehow in a acopy and paste it was acredited to me.

hey!


No wasn't me either !:D
ArlJim78 is reponsible for this post which has caused us so much trouble and confusion (just kidding :D ) in post #87

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=87

"Kicking a horse is not at all part of the sport and I think they had to do something to demonstrate to the public that this is ..."

boo Jim lol

ArlJim78 06-26-2007 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
hey!


No wasn't me either !:D
ArlJim78 is reponsible for this post which has caused us so much trouble and confusion (just kidding :D ) in post #87

http://derbytrail.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=87

"Kicking a horse is not at all part of the sport and I think they had to do something to demonstrate to the public that this is ..."

boo Jim lol

well yeah it was my original post, looks like it when someone quoted it they messed up the quote notation so it appeared as regular text.

Cajungator26 06-26-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
well yeah it was my original post, looks like it when someone quoted it they messed up the quote notation so it appeared as regular text.

It was just fun to tease Andy about it.

MisterB 06-27-2007 08:31 AM

I think trainers should be able to kick jockeys in the azz for a bad ride. And owners should be able to kick trainers in the **** for a bad training job.

:D

ShadowRoll 06-27-2007 09:40 AM

Be very, very quiet...I'm hunting wabbits.

"A phone call to track officials was not returned. Stewards have been told by the Pennsylvania Racing Commission never to comment about anything."

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/sports/8179622.html


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