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Mortimer 05-25-2007 02:59 PM
They did not execute. Simple as that. The play calling is moot. If you dont make shots you lose. Despite Mortys pleas to the contrary there are no appealing options for Cleveland in a half court set under those conditions.
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You're right.






James may as well miss it.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
HE's 15-10 in the playoffs the last two years with 3 series wins for a franchise that hadn't won a playoff series since 1993.
Actually he's 11-10. Anyone who counts the Washington series should never talk about the NBA again.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Silly, silly man. Before LeBron got to Cleveland the team hadn't had a 30 win season in over 3 years. The team was 15-67 the season before LeBron got there. In two years he had them over .500. They have won 3 playoff series in the last 2 years after having not won one since 1993. They have back to back 50 win seasons for only the second time in close to 40 years in existence.

HE hit not one, but two game winning shots in the playoffs last year. At age 22, LeBron has 15 playoff wins...I think at that age, Bird and Jordan had a total of zero combined.

Why bother with facts when making things up is so much better!!!
The Eastern Conference was actually competitive when Jordan and Bird played.


Why use rational thinking when you can just put down others? GFY.

LeBron will win, at most, three titles. He's just not as good as his hype.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Actually he's 11-10. Anyone who counts the Washington series should never talk about the NBA again.
It was the playoffs. Should we discount the St Louis Cardinals as World Series champions last year because they weren't that good in the regular season??

15-10.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
The Eastern Conference was actually competitive when Jordan and Bird played.


Why use rational thinking when you can just put down others? GFY.

LeBron will win, at most, three titles. He's just not as good as his hype.
Of course it was...like Jordan's first playoff team that was 30-52 during the regular season and qualified for the playoffs. Super competetive team there. A 30-52 team qualifying for the playoffs is quite indicative of super competion...what could I have been thinking. Jordan and Bird combined for 1 playoff win before the age of 23...I was wrong there. Sorry about that.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 03:56 PM
c'mon guys...you really don't know who you are dealing with here....offer anything of some value here.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 03:58 PM
oops...sorry about that again...Jordan's 2nd playoff team went 30-52. His first playoff team was a stellar 38-44. Now that was a competitive eastern conference.

Mortimer 05-25-2007 03:59 PM
Guys.









DINNER TIME!!!

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 04:01 PM
my boyfriend's back and there's gonna be some trouble hey- la-de-da my boyfriends back!!!

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 04:04 PM
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary to mutilate and embarrass mortimer you simply do it. Mayber he can point out some of my typos however.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
It was the playoffs. Should we discount the St Louis Cardinals as World Series champions last year because they weren't that good in the regular season??

15-10.
Yes because the Washington Wizards without two of their best players can be compared to a god damn baseball team.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
c'mon guys...you really don't know who you are dealing with here....offer anything of some value here.
I'm dealing with a horse, of course. Aren't you entered in a 2500 claimer at los al tonight?

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
oops...sorry about that again...Jordan's 2nd playoff team went 30-52. His first playoff team was a stellar 38-44. Now that was a competitive eastern conference.
Yes and Chicago had a coaching change and in the second year of Jackson's tenure they cut down the nets.

Cleveland won't win a title with Rerun. They need a coach with playoff experience. This guy is winning a series or two not due to his coaching ability, but a weak conference and the services of a top 10 player in the league.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yes because the Washington Wizards without two of their best players can be compared to a god damn baseball team.
You really shouldn't count the Cardinals as World Series champs becuase the Tiger pitchers couldn't throw to any base with accuracy. the Padres had Mike Piazza and Josh Bard catching, and Russ Branyan at 3rd, that alone should not count as a post season win for the Cardinals last year should it??

The Cardinals did not win their first round series last year and only had 8 postseason wins...is that how we play this game???

YOu guys need to get way better.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yes and Chicago had a coaching change and in the second year of Jackson's tenure they cut down the nets.

Cleveland won't win a title with Rerun. They need a coach with playoff experience. This guy is winning a series or two not due to his coaching ability, but a weak conference and the services of a top 10 player in the league.
Actually they had more than one coaching change after JOrdan joined the team...they had Albeck, Collins I know before Jackson...don't know who else...so it took at least two coaching changes to cut down the nets there.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
You really shouldn't count the Cardinals as World Series champs becuase the Tiger pitchers couldn't throw to any base with accuracy. the Padres had Mike Piazza and Josh Bard catching, and Russ Branyan at 3rd, that alone should not count as a post season win for the Cardinals last year should it??

The Cardinals did not win their first round series last year and only had 8 postseason wins...is that how we play this game???

YOu guys need to get way better.
So using that line of thinking the Miami Heat shouldn't be counted as champions because Shaq couldn't hit free throws and Dallas choked.

So I guess that makes the rest of the NBA teams last year piles of dogsh.it.

Ok i'm getting it.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
Actually they had more than one coaching change after JOrdan joined the team...they had Albeck, Collins I know before Jackson...don't know who else...so it took at least two coaching changes to cut down the nets there.
So that means the next coach will send the Cavs to the promised land. And if you go by Jordan's career that means Brown gets one more season.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yes and Chicago had a coaching change and in the second year of Jackson's tenure they cut down the nets.

Cleveland won't win a title with Rerun. They need a coach with playoff experience. This guy is winning a series or two not due to his coaching ability, but a weak conference and the services of a top 10 player in the league.
Clever use of 70s sitcoms, who was strong in the Eastern conference during Jordan's runs other than the Knicks (alledgedly) and Cavaliers (alledgedly) and the Pacers?? And those teams weren't continually strong...they peaked at different times. It's not like you have 6 or 7 strong teams in any conference any year with a chance to reach the finals. It is rare that more than 3 teams are ever good enough in a particular year.

That is a myth on how strong the conference was...ie, the Celtics playing a 30-52 team in the first round in 86 I think.

horseofcourse 05-25-2007 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
So using that line of thinking the Miami Heat shouldn't be counted as champions because Shaq couldn't hit free throws and Dallas choked.

So I guess that makes the rest of the NBA teams last year piles of dogsh.it.

Ok i'm getting it.
you win you win. It counts. IT matters not who you play. They won the first round over Washington. It counts.

Coach Pants 05-25-2007 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseofcourse
you win you win. It counts. IT matters not who you play. They won the first round over Washington. It counts.
The only thing that matters is the championship.

Don't win one? You'll end up a degenerate gambler doing commercials with strong homosexual undertones for a cell phone company.


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