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Buffymommy 05-02-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Sorta what I meant... best horse on that day, at least.


I had him, hubby at Giacomo. If we had only done and exacta with our picks. :)

Cajungator26 05-02-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I had him, hubby at Giacomo. If we had only done and exacta with our picks. :)

I used Afleet Alex, Closing Argument, Bellamy Road (I thought he was the winner), Noble Causeway and Don't Get Mad in my tri box. I tossed Giacomo... boy was I mad. :mad:

jman5581 05-02-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I had him, hubby at Giacomo. If we had only done and exacta with our picks. :)


Do that this year!!

lemoncrush 05-02-2007 02:35 PM

Horses like AGS, Dominican and Great hunter may be in luck.

Despite Tiago having a fairly early pick, word has it that Mike Smith has requested Sheriffs to take the 20 slot. When asked why, Smith remarked that he had such a nice leisurely ride from the 20 post last year with Flashy Bull that he wouldn't mind doing the same thing this year.

He hardly knew there were 19 other horses in the field.
:p

jpops757 05-02-2007 02:50 PM

All of these improvements in Post positions? This is The K Derby and not some Handycap race. The only thing you need to do is qualify for the race and then all should be treated fairly. The staggered track and field start makes a lot of sense. Line the track with 20 lanes and disqualify any runner that gets out of there lane before the break wheather just before or after the turn. What a madhouse. Lets just run a time trial instead of the derby trial and let the top finishers pick there hole. I dont think the K Derby is broke but if some of you had a chance to "improve" it, serious problems could result.

easy goer 05-02-2007 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyD
Has anybody ever won from the 19-20 hole ?

Clyde Van Dusen, pp 20; is the correct answer in 1929. sorry I was wrong about Gatodel Sole who broke from 18.

jman5581 05-02-2007 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
All of these improvements in Post positions? This is The K Derby and not some Handycap race. The only thing you need to do is qualify for the race and then all should be treated fairly. The staggered track and field start makes a lot of sense. Line the track with 20 lanes and disqualify any runner that gets out of there lane before the break wheather just before or after the turn. What a madhouse. Lets just run a time trial instead of the derby trial and let the top finishers pick there hole. I dont think the K Derby is broke but if some of you had a chance to "improve" it, serious problems could result.

I hope you're not taking people too serious...

The Indomitable DrugS 05-02-2007 03:01 PM

Post Position one took down four of the five dirt races over this track on Breeders Cup day---I believe three of which at double digit odds...and the inside is playing better now than it has in some past CD meets.

I know it's a lot different in a 20 horse field, where you have to come out slightly to avoid the rail, and you have a crush of horses trying to get inside, but all chance is CERTAINLY not lost because a horse is breaking from the rail.

With a long run into the first turn, horses drawing on the extreme outside should have every chance to work there way into an ok position.

The draw is very overrated. If you have a real nervous horse, I guess you'd ideally want post #9 or #10, as they will be one of the last three or four to load--and aren't breaking from too far out.

All in all---the post draw is massively overrated.

ArlJim78 05-02-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Post Position one took down four of the five dirt races over this track on Breeders Cup day---I believe three of which at double digit odds...and the inside is playing better now than it has in some past CD meets.

I know it's a lot different in a 20 horse field, where you have to come out slightly to avoid the rail, and you have a crush of horses trying to get inside, but all chance is CERTAINLY not lost because a horse is breaking from the rail.

With a long run into the first turn, horses drawing on the extreme outside should have every chance to work there way into an ok position.

The draw is very overrated. If you have a real nervous horse, I guess you'd ideally want post #9 or #10, as they will be one of the last three or four to load--and aren't breaking from too far out.

All in all---the post draw is massively overrated.

Its overrated unless you get the high draws, 17-20, which essentially makes you dead meat. Trips just don't somehow work out from there despite the long run to the turn.
The 1 hole may not be as bad but it does restrict your options.

miraja2 05-02-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Horses like AGS, Dominican and Great hunter may be in luck.

Despite Tiago having a fairly early pick, word has it that Mike Smith has requested Sheriffs to take the 20 slot. When asked why, Smith remarked that he had such a nice leisurely ride from the 20 post last year with Flashy Bull that he wouldn't mind doing the same thing this year.

He hardly knew there were 19 other horses in the field.
:p

Good one!

whorstman 05-02-2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I can hardly wait!!! :D


Same here! Last year I correctly predicted the 7 hole for Bob & John. This year I say Street Sense gets Cajun's 9 hole. ;)

Cajungator26 05-02-2007 04:08 PM

I'm only 'watching' kentuckyderby.com for the live draw, but in case sumwon sees it before me, will you update? I'll update them with their chosen post positions as I see them go...

Any Given Saturday: 18
Bwana Bull: 11
Circular Quay: 16
Cowtown Cat: 6
Curlin: 2
Dominican: 19
Great Hunter: 20
Hard Spun: 8
Imawildandcrazyguy: 5
Liquidity: 9
Nobiz Like Shobiz: 12
Sam P.: 13
Scat Daddy: 14
Sedgefield: 1
Storm in May: 4
Stormello: 17
Street Sense: 7
Teuflesberg: 10
Tiago: 15
Zanjero: 3

randallscott35 05-02-2007 04:12 PM

Get this Race Car nonsense off the screen. Jesus.

whorstman 05-02-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I'm only 'watching' kentuckyderby.com for the live draw, but in case sumwon sees it before me, will you update? I'll update them with their chosen post positions as I see them go...

Any Given Saturday:
Bwana Bull:
Circular Quay:
Cowtown Cat:
Curlin:
Dominican:
Great Hunter
Hard Spun:
Imawildandcrazyguy:
Liquidity:
Nobiz Like Shobiz:
Sam P.:
Scat Daddy:
Sedgefield:
Storm in May:
Stormello:
Street Sense: 9
Teuflesberg:
Tiago:
Zanjero:

I'll be leaving here in a bit, so I'll catch it at home. Would like to watch live, but oh well.

Antitrust32 05-02-2007 04:17 PM

9 is still open Jamie! I wonder if Street Sense will take it... or Liquidity

Antitrust32 05-02-2007 04:18 PM

oh shoot Jamie, good luck winning with the 9 post with Liquidity

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-02-2007 04:18 PM

Uh oh!!!!!!!!!

Downthestretch55 05-02-2007 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Get this Race Car nonsense off the screen. Jesus.

Thanks! LMFAO!!!
I'm sticking with Nobiz and Dominican. There's the exacta, wherever they start.
Horses don't do numbers despite all that hoof tapping...how old is my daughter? tap tap tap tap...

Cajungator26 05-02-2007 04:23 PM

Liquidity was one of my original derby picks... holy shiat. LMAO

Cajungator26 05-02-2007 04:25 PM

Street Sense drew one of my lucky numbers (I like to play the 3 and 7 normally.) :o


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