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miraja2 04-02-2007 07:20 PM

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Mr.Towel head

Why include that?

pgardn 04-02-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Anyway, I wouldn't have much problem with the Sheik's criticism, if the criticism was legitimate. However, the criticism was not legitimate. Jara rode the horse perfectly. I'm not saying that just because he won. I've seen plenty of horses win that get bad rides, but this was not one of them.

Jara says to him yes my Lord, yes my Lordship, and then pockets the check and forgets about it. Thats the only way to play that game.

JJP 04-02-2007 07:30 PM

And just how many winners has Sheikh Hamburger won? I wish Jara would've told him to go f-k himself.

pgardn 04-02-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
And just how many winners has Sheikh Hamburger won? I wish Jara would've told him to go f-k himself.

He will be on top of the best horse on dirt in the world. With the size of the purses he wont say a thing. And thats smart.

Danzig 04-02-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Why include that?

and why include it twice?? perhaps it's felt it adds to the dialogue?:rolleyes:

Danzig 04-02-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I believe he was looking for some attention.

apparently of the negative kind...but negative attention is still attention.

Sightseek 04-02-2007 08:42 PM

Seeing Round Table's PP's in another thread reminded me of his Derby...could you imagine if Jara pulled a Shoe in the race. :eek: (and this is no knock on Shoemaker because he was one of the best)

Labeeb 04-02-2007 08:43 PM

Owners need to let trainers train, and riders ride. It doesn't mean you can't be critical, but to do so publicly is uncalled for, especially after winning the richest race in the world.

Linny 04-02-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
One thing to be cautious of is their knowledge of the english knowledge, some of these quotes can easily be misconstrued in the wrong tone

Not sure about Hamdan but I think Sheikh Mo went to Oxford, not exactly known for turning out grads unfamiliar with English.

my miss storm cat 04-02-2007 09:04 PM

Okaaaaay well someone told me to have a look at this thread but i could only stand to read through the second page. I don't care for racist comments.

How about an interlude? :p

http://www.sheikhmohammed.com/

~ official Godolphin cheerleader :D

edit: For the record, was trying to post a link to the poetry (horsie poem!) but it didn't work. :eek:

Left Bank 04-02-2007 09:09 PM

So every time Jonny V or jerry Bailey looked back it is a mistake?No wonder this clown has never won the derby.He should stick to being an owner or get on the horse and do it himself.

johnny pinwheel 04-02-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Invasor probably doesn't get run down by anyone if he's ridden right. But if he moves way too soon and there is some monster behind him, anything is possible.

see the replay of last years whitney at saratoga. jara had to save what horse he had left because sun king was breathing down his kneck. he barely won. you are right. that sheik is an idiot. they all look back. sometimes its showboating but many times the jock has an idea of who the main comp is before the race(and they try to see where they are) . in the witney he chased the pace because it was easy and you can't let premium tap get away. he put 2 horses away and then came the fresh challange of sun king. jara saw him coming and had just enough to hold the win. class is how hard you can run the last 10 yards of the race not the middle 10. if you have the horse in front of you measured why push the pedal to floor before the end. one main reason the horse is great , is the trainer. look what the morons did to the career of the "other" favorite (DC). the shiek should keep his big mouth shut and walk to the winners circle after the race!

JJP 04-02-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
He will be on top of the best horse on dirt in the world. With the size of the purses he wont say a thing. And thats smart.

Is it worth it? You just won the biggest race in the world and this idiot rips into you. Jara has had his payday; not only from Saturday but the Breeders Cup from this owner. I'd love to see Jara say "screw you, the BC and World Cup wasn't good enough? Put Jamie Spencer on your horse.

Cajungator26 04-02-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
In a word.....yes. The kid just made like three hundred grand. He needs horses like this and with his relationship with McLaughlin he can't afford to say screw you. Especially if McLaughlin keeps getting horses from the sheik.

Awww... come on now... don't go throwing a logical statement into this! :p

satan's twin 04-02-2007 11:10 PM

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Ok,heres my take on this topic.I had many run inns with jockeys,including hitting one with his own whip.But,in this case the jock knows this horse well and has made no mistakes up to this point riding him.So,whats the beef.All of sudden this towel head is going to tell jocks how ride horses.The closest thing his ass has come to sitting on a race horse is when he seats on his 200,000.00 gold plated tolet seat in the morning.I think because they have so much money they think their word is always correct.Try winning a Kentucky Derby instead telling a kid how to ride a winning horse in a big race.When you come back to the USA Mr.Towel head,stop by Wal-Mart and I will put 50 cents in the Merry go round outside the door,and you can show me and others how to ride a horse.:D




You're a little hard on the hired help, don't you think?

rontheman1964 04-03-2007 12:02 AM

What is wrong with a jockey taking a peek to see if any competition is coming up on him? Isn't that his job? If no one is coming he can wrap up and save the engine for next time. That is smart race riding in my book and exactly what I would want from a rider should I ever be lucky enough to have a horse in that position.
What if he didn't take a peek back and then got nailed on the wire by a big closer? How big of a loser would we all be calling him? They don't pay you a bigger purse for winning the race by a bigger margin, do they??? Like Al Davis says "Just win, baby." :D

brockguy 04-03-2007 07:13 AM

this has to be an April fools..

seems harsh words when's its written down.. the sheiks frequently give riders instructions regarding race riding.. I remember Sheikh Mo giving frankie precise instructions of how to ride Fantastic Light when Galileo and Fantastic Light were facing up again at Leopardstown. Frankie did it and they just about won. they usually know what they're on about..They spend alot of time in or aorund horses and Sheikh Mo, at least is a capable rider himself, not too sure on Hamdan..

finally, it is quite ironic that Hamdan critices Jara, who I think is a fantastic jockey, when to my knowledge, he hasn't criticised his English stable jockey Richard Hills who is renowed to be one of the worst jocks, who has a terrible record on short priced favourites..


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