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Cajungator26 01-17-2007 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
I need confirmation of such opinions......
Will pictures serve as evidence? I kid, I kid... :D

Sightseek 01-17-2007 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
It probably helped that you're a hot babe too, right? :D
LOL, the night of the twilight racing card he did very obviously check me out as I walked by, but men will be men, as we both very well know. Seriously though, he was very nice and honest when I asked him about one of his horses. Most trainers won't give people the time of day unless they think you own a horse.

Cajungator26 01-17-2007 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL, the night of the twilight racing card he did very obviously check me out as I walked by, but men will be men, as we both very well know. Seriously though, he was very nice and honest when I asked him about one of his horses. Most trainers won't give people the time of day unless they think you own a horse.
Agreed... Nascar guys are the same. Unless you're on the team, they won't give you the time of day to talk about racing and there are only a few exceptions.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2007 10:40 PM
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things we regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?

GPK 01-17-2007 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things we regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?

dumbass rides by jocks excluded of course??:D

Cajungator26 01-17-2007 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things they regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?
No, we definitely do NOT need to be doing that as many racing figures frequent this board and it's not polite to state negative opinions concerning others. PERIOD.

I hope I get the chance to meet Nick someday, but in the meantime, I'll see him in a positive light because his horses look to be well taken care of and I've never heard a negative thing about him (with the exception of Eurobounce's opinion of him.)

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2007 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
No, we definitely do NOT need to be doing that as many racing figures frequent this board and it's not polite to state negative opinions concerning others. PERIOD.

I hope I get the chance to meet Nick someday, but in the meantime, I'll see him in a positive light because his horses look to be well taken care of and I've never heard a negative thing about him (with the exception of Eurobounce's opinion of him.)

Obviously it's a game where we all have lots of opinions, which is terrific, but there's a big difference between saying this rider rode poorly, and having a ride to argue over, or this trainer didn't do a great job, and having a horse or horses to argue over, and saying this jockey or trainer is a horrible human being. Believe me, there are people at the racetrack, just like everywhere else, that are less than special, but it hardly goes anywhere harping on it here. A simple " I don't like the guy ", and not a circular approach which finally leads to your admittance that you have a personal vendetta, will suffice.

Scav 01-17-2007 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by T3B
dumbass rides by jocks excluded of course??:D
If Byk bans me from yelling about Laviolette I AM OUTTA HERE.....

:)

The Indomitable DrugS 01-17-2007 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing.
Quite Frankly,

He reminds me of an Italianized version of Stephen A. Smith when he does television interviews.

blackthroatedwind 01-17-2007 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Quite Frankly,

He reminds me of an Italianized version of Stephen A. Smith when he does television interviews.



Haven't you done enough?

stonegossard 01-18-2007 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Quite Frankly,

He reminds me of an Italianized version of Stephen A. Smith when he does television interviews.


Do you know where I can get any information on a horse named Smokey Stover. I am a huge fan of him. Am looking to start a fan club.

Thanks in advance.

stonegossard 01-18-2007 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I will say his horses are taken care of very well. I will never deny his passion and love for horses. That part about him is something to admire. However, I think his training ability (able to get his horses ready, able to figure out how to improve a horse etc etc is whats avg). All I am going to say is that there have been several times where I have seen Zito be less than a man. Not only to me but to other people. That is all. But his love for horses and passion for the game is great.

I met him at GP last year. Was a cool guy. Actually suprised he took the time to have a conversation with me (a guy he never met). Not sure what your beef with the guy is. As far as a trainer....you are right...he is average...only won 2 Kentucky Derbies.....gimme a friggin break....

brianwspencer 01-18-2007 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nick Zito doesn't need me to defend him, and as he is a very good friend of mine I am obviously biased, but I will say that no other racing figure is more generous with his time with fans than he is. Not only at the races, where regardless of what he is doing he stops to talk to everyone that asks for his time, but also in his personal time. Closing night of the Saratoga meet a man came by our dinner table and talked to Nick for quite a while, not only having him sign his program, but also calling a friend on his cell phone and putting Nick on to the friend. Not only did Nick graciously do all this but after the man left he joked about how much fun that was.

It's the racetrack, and there are a million stories, and I'm sure everyone of us has done things we regret, but Nick Zito is as good an ambassador for the game as any figure working in racing. I think Eurobounce has made it clear he doesn't like him. Is this board really the place we all need to air our personal grievances about racing figures?
andy -- with any past or future disagreements aside, this is without a doubt my favorite post on Derby Trail in some time. Thanks for the story about Nick -- I've always found him to be more agreeable on TV (for what it's worth) than most trainers, and your story seems to back up everything I've ever thought about him. It's nice to know that there are people who don't just mug for the camera, but are genuinely good people when it comes down to the little everyday things.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-18-2007 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Do you know where I can get any information on a horse named Smokey Stover. I am a huge fan of him. Am looking to start a fan club.

Thanks in advance.

Smokey Stover is a very overrated Northern Cal sprinter (he can't even break an 80 on the CJ's!) that was named after a resoundingly unfunny cartoon strip.....

My suggestion would be to ditch the fan club idea...and go play in traffic.

Danzig 01-18-2007 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by T3B
dumbass rides by jocks excluded of course??:D
that's business, not personal!!:D

eurobounce 01-18-2007 09:42 AM
I have to question the choice one would make to befriend a person who continually chooses to live his life in a less than stellar light when it comes to his life outisde of racing.

slotdirt 01-18-2007 09:47 AM
Cajun...what NASCAR guys aren't nice? In my experience, they're all good guys.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Cajun...what NASCAR guys aren't nice? In my experience, they're all good guys.
That has been my experience as well Slot. The old school drivers would actually go to a bar with you and get the entire bar drunk.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Cajun...what NASCAR guys aren't nice? In my experience, they're all good guys.
Slot, being a female and going out with them after they're done working is different than how they are on the track... there are a few in the business that don't have a lot of class, and I won't name names because how they act AFTER they're done racing isn't a good reflection on how they are with their fans at the racetrack.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
That has been my experience as well Slot. The old school drivers would actually go to a bar with you and get the entire bar drunk.
And most of them still will, Euro. There are a few that I don't have a ton of respect for, though and that's only because their act gets really old after a few nights out. LOL :p

eurobounce 01-18-2007 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Slot, being a female and going out with them after they're done working is different than how they are on the track... there are a few in the business that don't have a lot of class, and I won't name names because how they act AFTER they're done racing isn't a good reflection on how they are with their fans at the racetrack.
My fav driver to hang out with was Jimmy Spencer. Man, that man is a riot and funny. I also like hanging out with Jeff Burton. He could be a stand up comedian.

Coach Pants 01-18-2007 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I have to question the choice one would make to befriend a person who continually chooses to live his life in a less than stellar light when it comes to his life outisde of racing.
Did he hit on your wife?

slotdirt 01-18-2007 10:08 AM
Biffle.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Biffle.
Biff is a good guy... nothing negative to say about him at all.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
My fav driver to hang out with was Jimmy Spencer. Man, that man is a riot and funny. I also like hanging out with Jeff Burton. He could be a stand up comedian.
Jeff is cool... I've never hung out with Jimmy Spencer. Met him once, but he's never gone out with us.

Thank God you guys aren't naming anyone that rubs me the wrong way. :D

eurobounce 01-18-2007 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Jeff is cool... I've never hung out with Jimmy Spencer. Met him once, but he's never gone out with us.

Thank God you guys aren't naming anyone that rubs me the wrong way. :D
Cajun, I think I know who some of these people are, but I am not going to go there. :)

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Cajun, I think I know who some of these people are, but I am not going to go there. :)
Probably a good thing because I don't think I've ever seen anyone get nasty with a fan before, so I can't hold that against them. Well, maybe one time... :rolleyes:

eurobounce 01-18-2007 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Probably a good thing because I don't think I've ever seen anyone get nasty with a fan before, so I can't hold that against them. Well, maybe one time... :rolleyes:
The best is when you are at the same place with two drivers who hate each other. Boy, they dont hold much back.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
The best is when you are at the same place with two drivers who hate each other. Boy, they dont hold much back.
No, they sure don't... luckily, most of them are pretty good friends off the track. Interesting that you like Nascar too... I was in Daytona on Tuesday for testing... Jeff Gordon, Jeremy Mayfield, Juan Pablo Montoya, Denny Hamlin and Ryan Newman looked to have decent race cars for Daytona. Jeremy's toyota is the only one I'd take a chance with right now because most of the Toyota's are having some problems with horsepower. It's going to take them about half of the season to get those issues worked out...

slotdirt 01-18-2007 10:29 AM
Cajun....probably headed to the 'Ville. Martinsville, that is. Are you actually friends with all of these guys?

eurobounce 01-18-2007 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
No, they sure don't... luckily, most of them are pretty good friends off the track. Interesting that you like Nascar too... I was in Daytona on Tuesday for testing... Jeff Gordon, Jeremy Mayfield, Juan Pablo Montoya, Denny Hamlin and Ryan Newman looked to have decent race cars for Daytona. Jeremy's toyota is the only one I'd take a chance with right now because most of the Toyota's are having some problems with horsepower. It's going to take them about half of the season to get those issues worked out...
Cajun, I LOVE car racing. Always have since I was little. I grew up going to the INDY 500. I got interested in NASCAR when I was 10. I think it will be about 3 years before Toyota really gets it going. Toyota will not be welcomed by NASCAR fans--lol. I wish I was down there for testing. Testing is just as much fun as the race.

Danzig 01-18-2007 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I have to question the choice one would make to befriend a person who continually chooses to live his life in a less than stellar light when it comes to his life outisde of racing.
different strokes euro. i think my secretarys boyfriend is an ass and a moron. she seems to like him just fine tho....so i don't know i'd go around bashing him by name. opinions being what they are, you're entitled to yours--but i don't necessarily agree with you being so adamant about it on here.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Cajun....probably headed to the 'Ville. Martinsville, that is. Are you actually friends with all of these guys?
A few of them, Slot... my ex boyfriend is Michael Waltrip's crew chief in the cup series. We're still friends and we all hang out when they're in town. Martinsville is a great track... have you ever been? Richmond is probably my fave on the circuit.

Sightseek 01-18-2007 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig188
different strokes euro. i think my secretarys boyfriend is an ass and a moron. she seems to like him just fine tho....so i don't know i'd go around bashing him by name. opinions being what they are, you're entitled to yours--but i don't necessarily agree with you being so adamant about it on here.
If I recall eurobounce also said he liked Baffert, how did he and Jill meet again?

slotdirt 01-18-2007 10:51 AM
Sweet! What is he doing now? Mikey's got his own deal now. I'm guessing those Toyotas struggle this year. If you ever get M-ville pit passes, you know I"m your best friend, right?

eurobounce 01-18-2007 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
A few of them, Slot... my ex boyfriend is Michael Waltrip's crew chief in the cup series. We're still friends and we all hang out when they're in town. Martinsville is a great track... have you ever been? Richmond is probably my fave on the circuit.
I have to agree with Richmond. I have been to the Saturday night race for the past 2 years. It is by far my fav race of the year.

Cajungator26 01-18-2007 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Sweet! What is he doing now? Mikey's got his own deal now. I'm guessing those Toyotas struggle this year. If you ever get M-ville pit passes, you know I"m your best friend, right?
LOL, sure thing. :D

Their car was slow as molasses... he says that they're having some issues with keeping the horsepower consistent and they need to work on some aero concerns. Mikey seemed pretty happy, though... Toyota is willing to throw a lot of money at the teams. They don't like to look bad. It wouldn't surprise me to see one of the Toyota teams getting a win this season, but probably not until the second half of the season.

Danzig 01-18-2007 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
If I recall eurobounce also said he liked Baffert, how did he and Jill meet again?

:eek: :eek: :eek:

not sure how they met. but i do know baffert was married at the time.....


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