5/16/15 (PIM): Preakness Stakes

American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza)
Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
Divining Rod (Delacour/Castellano)
Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
Bodhisattva (Corrales/McCarthy)
Tale of Verve (Stewart/Rosario)
Mr. Z (Lukas/Nakatani)


6/6/15 (BEL): Belmont Stakes

Keen Ice (Romans)
Mubtaahij (de Kock)
Tale of Verve (Stewart)
Madefromlucky (Pletcher)
Carpe Diem (Pletcher)
Materiality (Pletcher)
Frosted (McLaughlin)

Isn't the Pletcher Super Saver colt going to the Preakness?

No.

Woody Stephens is logical.

The field is getting easier for AP again and again. What next, a match race: American Pharoah and Tale of Verve. :D:D:D And the easier it gets the more he saves for Big Sandy.

How so? Firing Line and Dortmund should be strong contenders too.

Ya think so? "Should" is right. But can they win? Depends on who came out of the Derby the best. Any gleaming reports on the big 3. I can't keep up since I have a real job in my real life. Speed favoring, AP controls the pace or right on it, he wins again.

Probably AP wins if the three of them lead from the beginning. Hopefully one of the other entrants outside these three will set the pace.

Materiality is not running in Preakness. Will target Belmont. Looks like Belmont going to have a pretty large field of quality horses.

Materiality won't be in the Preakness either
 

Will the tri pay more or less than 2012 70.80 for $2 ??

:D

Anyone hearing anything about workouts and or who looks good physically?

If I knew a firing line/ap/dortmund $2 tri box would pay $70 I'd bet my wife's hatchet wound on it!

I think it pays more like 40-50 for 2 with that combo

No works between races for the top three finishers. Some open gallops Monday and Tuesday. From all accounts they all came out of the Derby in great shape. Don't have much info on the other four prospective starters. Drf is usually up to date on all of it.

Old dog I've been on this board for 8 yrs and that is the best post I have seen. Congrats u just won derbytrails.com bravo

crazy the amount of coverage the derby gets and how little the preakness gets...prior to the derby you'd think the horses are in the miss America pageant...preakness back to regular old horses. Was just wondering how the energy of Dortmund, firing line and so was. All seemed to work pretty hard and wanted to k ow if they have bounced back or are still showing the effects

the mjc needs to do more for their premiere race of the year. and they ought to offer a derby/Preakness bonus to get more of the derby starters in the gate at pimlico.
instead of just sitting on their butts waiting for the crowd to show up, they could really make a big show..

.....im going $28

Calumet buys Mr. Z, enters Preakness..
 

You can't make it up..

To seemingly appease Lukas, Zayat sells Mr. Z to Calumet who becomes 8th entrant to Preakness.

American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza)
Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
Divining Rod (Delacour/Castellano)
Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
Bodhisattva (Corrales/McCarthy)
Tale of Verve (Stewart/Rosario)
Mr. Z (Lukas/Nakatani)

DRF Live> Jay Privman, Pimlico Race Course

:rolleyes:

ETA: HR/TVG now reporting news that sale has gone through.

I'd do a rolleyes but at least the last Lukas/Calumet starter in the Preakness was a winner.

Well, maybe that will help inject speed into the race.

who was that?

Oxbow

Oxbow.

Zayat scores out selling this colt. Would assume it was for around 1 to 1.5 million for a colt with all his conditions left lol

With their arrival at Pimlico just now, twitter is now flooded with comments.

About how skinny they look?

Importance of Post Positions for Preakness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/s...o-they-matter/

the 1 hole is definitely a challenge for American Pharaoh. the derby pace was perceived as slow, so i think we can expect a quick pace in the Preakness. Mr Z will almost certainly jump out there and try to get control. i'm sure Lukas is hoping he can pull off an Oxbow type run. so i think there's a good chance that a couple horses will have to crossover in front of American Pharaoh which means kickback. hopefully Espinoza can work out a good trip.

It's amusing how a very short time ago people thought AP was a dedicated front runner that needs the lead. Now getting out run early is the concern.

Lukas: We’re probably not talented enough to stay around (w/Mr. Z) but someone else could be compromised because of it.

Great reason for entering. :rolleyes:

Lol. Let me screw up the race to make me relevant again.

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

like him or not, HOF or not, if he indeed entered this horse with this mentality, then its poor judgement, and i feel sorry for those who wager on him.

sticking around making comments like this, overruling an owner to the point of having the horse sold to prove that you know you're probably not good enough but your entry could compromise others is a flawed mentality and he's become more like Gennadi Dorochenko with his horse entry/placement

-bt-

Are you kidding? Haters gonna hate? How can you possibly defend what he said?

Well...you cant