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Pants II 09-12-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 997938)
Hey Dell why do you do if this was your daughter?

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...hone.khou.html

Dell has an interracial child?

Danzig 09-17-2014 07:56 AM

http://news.msn.com/us/los-angeles-s...imes-newspaper

ffs, why in the world would a school police dept need rocket launchers?!


also found this out about communities who get this equipment:

'The program is also loaded with what many experts view as a perverse incentive: to keep the equipment, local police must use it within a year. This incentive, some experts argue, might encourage police to use the weapons even when they're not necessary.'

altho crime in this country has gone down, swat raids have gone up an amazing amount. and most swat raids are for drugs.

http://www.cato.org/publications/whi...-raids-america

around 40k, used to be around 3k per year.

OldDog 09-17-2014 08:12 AM

Always a good idea to send in SWAT teams to check (wink, wink) barbers' licenses.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/16/fe...kes-florida-co

Pants II 09-17-2014 08:15 AM

These schools and localities need this heavy equipment to kill their productive citizens when the economy collapses and all of the immigrants that flooded the border of Eastern descent get the go light.

It's pretty simple really.

Danzig 09-17-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 998573)
Always a good idea to send in SWAT teams to check (wink, wink) barbers' licenses.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/16/fe...kes-florida-co

that's so over the top, it's mind boggling.

dellinger63 09-17-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 997938)
Hey Dell why do you do if this was your daughter?

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...hone.khou.html

I would have calmly sat her down and asked why she didn't give up the phone?

Then I'd say, "what in the flying f@ck did you do to your ears, and what's that a gang tattoo on your middle finger?"

Then I'd probably go out to a bar to contemplate what I had done wrong raising her. ;)

bigrun 09-17-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 998583)
I would have calmly sat her down and asked why she didn't give up the phone?

Then I'd say, "what in the flying f@ck did you do to your ears, and what's that a gang tattoo on your middle finger?"

Then I'd probably go out to a bar to contemplate what I had done wrong raising her. ;)

Took ya awhile but good answer:tro::D

Danzig 10-08-2014 02:39 PM

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult...ents_home.html

Pants II 10-13-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1001290)

I like how bigun is trying to hide her mass with a couch pillow.

Good grief this country is gone. So many useless eaters. I really don't care to bother reading that fat cows story. Get on a ****ing treadmill and stop using a couch pillow to continue your delusion.

Oh I did catch the quote "They was like.."

FFS. Why were they allowed to adopt?

Edit: OK foster child for "about a year" and now he's 18. Weird. Very weird. UGH.

bigrun 10-13-2014 02:34 PM

I'd guess her mass matches your avatars bigmASS:)

Pants II 10-13-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 1001996)
I'd guess her mass matches your avatars bigmASS:)

I would say it surpasses it. That pillow is perched at quite an angle. :D

Pants II 10-18-2014 09:22 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us...ggle.html?_r=0

SHOCKING!

Pants up Don't Loot

Rudeboyelvis 10-22-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1002516)

Confirmed by autopsy. Indications of a struggle with the cop and was reaching for the cop's gun when he was shot.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mic...rs-gun-n231391

Draw your own conclusions - I'm sure the Right Rev. Al will be drawing his shortly. And I'm guessing those conclusions won't include an apology.

OldDog 11-18-2014 12:23 PM

karma
 
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...-police-rally/

Danzig 11-18-2014 12:34 PM

it kind of is funny, but i'm certainly not going to give someone grief for protesting, since that is a constitutionally protected action.

Rudeboyelvis 11-18-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1006432)

I'm about as over this whole childish insistence of calling every frigging person who puts on a uniform a *Hero* as anyone ( be it Military, Police, Fireperson, etc.) but this is amazingly ironic and hilarious.

GenuineRisk 11-19-2014 09:56 AM

Seems like a good opportunity for the Ferguson police to display what they're made of. If they're professionals, trained in actual law enforcement, they'll set aside her personal feelings about them and do their best to recover her stolen property. If they choose to treat her complaint based on her feelings about them, then they are absolutely demonstrating why the citizens they are allegedly hired to protect and serve don't trust them.

Rudeboyelvis 11-19-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1006474)
Seems like a good opportunity for the Ferguson police to display what they're made of. If they're professionals, trained in actual law enforcement, they'll set aside her personal feelings about them and do their best to recover her stolen property. If they choose to treat her complaint based on her feelings about them, then they are absolutely demonstrating why the citizens they are allegedly hired to protect and serve don't trust them.

It's disgusting to me how some on the left tacitly excuse rioting as something that should be understood and accepted as free expression. Or do you honestly believe after all of this - that the Ferguson police are going to strong arm peaceful protesters in front of every singe video camera in Missouri?

OldDog 11-20-2014 08:18 AM

and more karma

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...-house-looted/

Pants II 11-24-2014 10:46 PM

If the police state is reached then they are showing that it's nothing to fear.

I mean people are destroying a city tonight and the police are just letting it happen.

Highway 44 shutdown by protestors.

Disgusting. Science and facts be damned. Gimme dat because slavery 150 years ago.

Let it all burn. We don't deserve a society if we're this weak.

Rupert Pupkin 11-24-2014 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1006998)
If the police state is reached then they are showing that it's nothing to fear.

I mean people are destroying a city tonight and the police are just letting it happen.

Highway 44 shutdown by protestors.

Disgusting. Science and facts be damned. Gimme dat because slavery 150 years ago.

Let it all burn. We don't deserve a society if we're this weak.

We have an Attorney General who does the exact opposite of what a decent AG would do. He urges the police to show restraint. He should have done the exact opposite. He should have made it clear that anyone who engages in any type of violence or vandalism will be arrested immediately.

From the start, both Holder and Obama have given the protesters credibility and acted like they have a good case. They have no case. It was all based on false information. When you hear the true facts of the case it is clear that the officer did nothing wrong. The physical evidence backs up everything that he said. When you get attacked and punched by a 6"5, 280 pound guy and he tries to take your gun, what are you supposed to do?

This grand jury couldn't even find probable cause to put this guy on trial for anything. This wasn't a close call. But the protesters don't want to hear about what actually happened. They want to go with the made up story about the sweet little unarmed kid who was shot by the police for no reason.

Here is the article about Holder telling the police to show restraint:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...lice/19335481/

Benny 11-25-2014 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1006999)
We have an Attorney General who does the exact opposite of what a decent AG would do. He urges the police to show restraint. He should have done the exact opposite. He should have made it clear that anyone who engages in any type of violence or vandalism will be arrested immediately.

From the start, both Holder and Obama have given the protesters credibility and acted like they have a good case. They have no case. It was all based on false information. When you hear the true facts of the case it is clear that the officer did nothing wrong. The physical evidence backs up everything that he said. When you get attacked and punched by a 6"5, 280 pound guy and he tries to take your gun, what are you supposed to do?

This grand jury couldn't even find probable cause to put this guy on trial for anything. This wasn't a close call. But the protesters don't want to hear about what actually happened. They want to go with the made up story about the sweet little unarmed kid who was shot by the police for no reason.

Here is the article about Holder telling the police to show restraint:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...lice/19335481/

It always got my attention that the Brown family attorney would refer to him as a "child" :zz:

Danzig 11-25-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1007006)
It always got my attention that the Brown family attorney would refer to him as a "child" :zz:

:tro:

lawyerspeak.
never expected charges, not surprised that the grand jury came down like that at all. the initial story was bogus (what cop, ever, tries to drag someone into their car while still sitting in it-that story just didn't sound logical from the get go).

Rudeboyelvis 11-25-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1006474)
Seems like a good opportunity for the Ferguson police to display what they're made of. If they're professionals, trained in actual law enforcement, they'll set aside her personal feelings about them and do their best to recover her stolen property. If they choose to treat her complaint based on her feelings about them, then they are absolutely demonstrating why the citizens they are allegedly hired to protect and serve don't trust them.

Hopefully, the police displayed the "acceptable level of tolerance" prescribed above last night for ya. Satisfied? Or would they still be big ole meanies if they try to keep the place from burning to the ground tonight?

jms62 11-25-2014 05:07 PM

You got to admit that you miss Riot's take and the entertainment of the verbal warfare that ensued.

Rupert Pupkin 11-25-2014 06:05 PM

Michael Brown's step-father is a great guy. His name is Louis Head. He is an ex-convict whose rap sheet includes two felony narcotics convictions. Last night he repeatedly urged protesters to “Burn this bitch down.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...ch-down-879056

GenuineRisk 11-25-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1007032)
Hopefully, the police displayed the "acceptable level of tolerance" prescribed above last night for ya. Satisfied? Or would they still be big ole meanies if they try to keep the place from burning to the ground tonight?

I think they and the District Attorney did everything they could to make the situation as bad as possible. Either that or they're just that inept. Either is possible.

And that prosecutor made it clear from the start he had no interest in bringing it to trial. The old saying goes that a District Attorney can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich if he wants them to. This article is of the opinion that the public was played, rather than the prosecutor just being an idiot:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult...ed_us_all.html

Have you seen the photos of Darren "Dumbo Ears" Wilson's alleged injuries? I've had rosacea flareups that look worse than anything on his face.

GenuineRisk 11-25-2014 07:12 PM

From the article (worth a read):

Quote:

By this time next year, Ferguson’s white mayor and all-white (save one) City Council will continue presiding over their majority-black suburban plantation. Economic disparities will persist, and local governments will continue preying on the poor for traffic fines to keep their budgets balanced. No recall elections will have ever been mounted—it should have happened by now—and young, know-it-all activists lacking political savvy will have missed golden opportunities to field candidates, raise fuds and crush the status quo.

No one, of course, had expected the tragic killing of Michael Brown to metastasize into an epic post-civil-rights-era clash between police and protesters. Once it did, we unraveled the rotten pistachio nut of race recurring like a bad cancer. Predictable bursts of reaction, from the peaceful to the violent pop-off, will be met by well-equipped police in waiting. But while the heat from calls for justice might thaw the frigid night air, the next day, month and year will find it right back where it all started.

Danzig 11-25-2014 08:34 PM

there are times when the police probably go too far, too fast. there are most likely times that they reach for a gun before the need to, or react overwhelmingly forcibly.
this isn't one of those times. there was no way, especially once all the evidence was collected, including gunpowder on the 'victim' which indicates extreme close range when shot, that this cop was ever going to be charged with anything.
there was a struggle for the gun, which put the cop in fear of his life.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fer...ing/ar-BBfNcvg

Pants II 11-25-2014 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1007045)

Have you seen the photos of Darren "Dumbo Ears" Wilson's alleged injuries? I've had rosacea flareups that look worse than anything on his face.

Yes I have.

Mock a man with a pregnant wife who was just trying to do his job and got assaulted by a thieving fat idiot who couldn't throw a punch because he was just a morbidly obese child who aspired to be Biggie Smalls.

His buddy...the one who aspires to be a poor man's Chief Keef lied to investigators and retracted his initial statement. He decided to instead get a tattoo of his dear friend Michael on his left cheek.

Rupert Pupkin 11-25-2014 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1007045)
I think they and the District Attorney did everything they could to make the situation as bad as possible. Either that or they're just that inept. Either is possible.

And that prosecutor made it clear from the start he had no interest in bringing it to trial. The old saying goes that a District Attorney can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich if he wants them to. This article is of the opinion that the public was played, rather than the prosecutor just being an idiot:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult...ed_us_all.html

Have you seen the photos of Darren "Dumbo Ears" Wilson's alleged injuries? I've had rosacea flareups that look worse than anything on his face.

That is all basically BS. The bottom line is that this racially diverse grand jury was shown every piece of evidence in this case. They got to see everything. Who even cares what the DA thinks? The final decision was the grand jury's to make and the DA held nothing back. He showed them all the evidence. By the way, for what it's worth the DA happens to be a democrat. But that doesn't really matter. All that matters was that the DA gave the grand jury all the evidence.

Instead of these protesters simply admitting that they were wrong and that they were totally played by the race-baiters, they want to blame the prosecutor. It's a joke. They got exactly what they wanted and they're still complaining. The DA knew there was no case. But the race-baiters were not going to take "no" for an answer. The DA couldn't file charges because he knew he had no case. Yet if he failed to act, the race baiters were going to go crazy. So he gave them what they wanted. He decided he would let an impartial group (the grand jury) see all the facts and let them decide. They have made their decision. What can anyone complain about at this point?

Pants II 11-25-2014 09:18 PM

If the social justice warriors, neckbeards, urban farmers, infowarriors, ustream hipsters etc. want the revolution to start over this bluntastrophe then they deserve the hardcore right wing chickenhawk President in 2017.

The Brown family attorney ASKED for all police officers nationwide to have cameras on their uniforms. All police activity recorded 24/7. 365 days.

Local municipalities are mostly broke. Local festivals, sporting events, concerts with meter maids...and more than likely drones.

They are essentially begging for what they're against.

Rudeboyelvis 11-25-2014 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1006474)
Seems like a good opportunity for the Ferguson police to display what they're made of. If they're professionals, trained in actual law enforcement, they'll set aside her personal feelings about them and do their best to recover her stolen property. If they choose to treat her complaint based on her feelings about them, then they are absolutely demonstrating why the citizens they are allegedly hired to protect and serve don't trust them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1007045)
I think they and the District Attorney did everything they could to make the situation as bad as possible. Either that or they're just that inept. Either is possible.

And that prosecutor made it clear from the start he had no interest in bringing it to trial. The old saying goes that a District Attorney can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich if he wants them to. This article is of the opinion that the public was played, rather than the prosecutor just being an idiot:

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cult...ed_us_all.html

Have you seen the photos of Darren "Dumbo Ears" Wilson's alleged injuries? I've had rosacea flareups that look worse than anything on his face.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1007046)
From the article (worth a read):

So, you indict the entire police force to fit your fanatical, fallacious narrative, and when that doesn't work you take pot shots at the DA - again to no other end but to sate some ridiculous bent of yours, without the slightest degree of fact. You are the punchline of a bad joke at best and more than likely you are simply just another wannabe charlatan. I pray you don't ever have to "forage" out of Utopia for non-GMO pistachio nuts or some sh1t and have to actually deal in the real world.......lol no I don't... :p

Le belch.

Rupert Pupkin 11-25-2014 10:40 PM

Legal Scholars Praise Ferguson Grand Jury for Fairness Beyond the Norm:

"Legal experts across the country agree that while the process that led to a grand jury’s decision not to indict Officer Darren Wilson for killing Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, was unusual, it was not unfair. Rather if it was anything unusual, it was in its fairness and openness."

“It was the most thorough grand jury investigation that I’ve ever heard of,” said Stephen Saltzburg, a professor of law at George Washington University Law School.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...jury-fairness/

OldDog 11-26-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1007045)

FIFY

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"There’s little official evidence..."
What? Do guys like him just ignore facts and say whatever comes into their minds? Like many of the protesters, he's not interested in facts and evidence if it doesn't fit his narrative.
And then there's this...
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"Many backpacking millennials who would have spent a fall weekend busing to Ferguson are now gearing up for Thanksgiving turkey and table debates with bigoted uncles over sweet potato pie."
Really? Their convictions are so weak that they won't skip a turkey dinner for them?

Puleeze.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1007045)
Have you seen the photos of Darren "Dumbo Ears" Wilson's alleged injuries? I've had rosacea flareups that look worse than anything on his face.

So, if Obama had a son he'd look like Wilson?

Michael Brown made a series of bad decisions in a pot induced haze, from robbing a convenience store to mouthing off to a cop to physically attacking said cop and finally to charging (did you know that charging is now racist code?) the cop. So said a grand jury with access to physical evidence and witness testimony. The display of ignorance to groundless refusal of this, by everyone from protestors to black "leaders" to members of the media, is one of the most disgusting things I have ever witnessed. Michael Brown may have grown up to do great things, to be a productive citizen, or he may have killed a police officer and gone to jail for life -- we'll never know, and a grand jury with access to the physical evidence of the case, and to all witness testimony, said that there was no basis for charging Wilson with a crime.

One more thing. A lawyer with whom I am acquainted, who is a prosecuting attorney, and for whom I have a great deal of respect, knows Mr. McCulloch. He believes McCulloch to be a man of integrity, and has the utmost respect for him. Why would I believe the things that a bunch of known liars, race baiters and tax cheats are saying about MuCulloch? Answer: I don't.

geeker2 11-26-2014 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1007057)
Legal Scholars Praise Ferguson Grand Jury for Fairness Beyond the Norm:

"Legal experts across the country agree that while the process that led to a grand jury’s decision not to indict Officer Darren Wilson for killing Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, was unusual, it was not unfair. Rather if it was anything unusual, it was in its fairness and openness."

“It was the most thorough grand jury investigation that I’ve ever heard of,” said Stephen Saltzburg, a professor of law at George Washington University Law School.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...jury-fairness/

This is White BS...I need to know what Rev Al Sharpton thinks on the subject.

At the same time maybe we can get some tax advise from him.

Benny 11-26-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 1007061)
This is White BS...I need to know what Rev Al Sharpton thinks on the subject.

At the same time maybe we can get some tax advise from him.

Yeah, ask the Rev. about Tawana Brawley while you're at it.;)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...primetime.html

How MSNBC gave him a show is unbelievable and i cannot watch it for that reason.

Benny 11-26-2014 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1007044)
Michael Brown's step-father is a great guy. His name is Louis Head. He is an ex-convict whose rap sheet includes two felony narcotics convictions. Last night he repeatedly urged protesters to “Burn this bitch down.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/...ch-down-879056

Wonder if he will be charged with incitement to riot :zz:

Danzig 11-26-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1007067)
Wonder if he will be charged with incitement to riot :zz:

he ought to be.
protesting is legal. rioting, arson, etc, is not. nor should we have a mob mentality toward justice, with someone being charged just because some citizens are angry. is that what they think they want, a cop charged even tho the evidence doesn't indicate he did anything wrong? how would that fix anything?
departments that have cameras on police, as well as dashcams, have shown significantly lower claims of police wrongdoing. it can show that something was done wrong, but can also show someone yelling 'brutality' is full of it.

Benny 11-26-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1007082)
he ought to be.
protesting is legal. rioting, arson, etc, is not. nor should we have a mob mentality toward justice, with someone being charged just because some citizens are angry. is that what they think they want, a cop charged even tho the evidence doesn't indicate he did anything wrong? how would that fix anything?
departments that have cameras on police, as well as dashcams, have shown significantly lower claims of police wrongdoing. it can show that something was done wrong, but can also show someone yelling 'brutality' is full of it.

I know its police training to go for the kill shot if they fear for their life, but wonder why the dont shoot out the legs first to incapacitate them first ?


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