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mclem0822 03-21-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 847220)
That's horses.hit. Two easy ways to fix the locker room.
1-The coach needs to have a better pulse of the team. Rex pretty much had no clue of the turmoili.
2-Just win, baby.

OMG! Tebow, perfect candidate to bring the lockeroom together in NYC! I can hear them now Rex " F*ck you guys f*ckin sucked out there today" Tebow " Coach, could you please not curse, it's not appropriate language" Rex " Gents, can take Mr. Tebow out back and show him something even less appropriate" LOL! NYC and Timmy Tebow, perfect! :rolleyes:

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 847137)
I dont see how Tebow could QB in the offensive system that will be designed for Manning.

Nobody can, not a starter in the league can do things the way he does/needs to.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 11:49 AM

I mentioned to Golfer on Monday that I thought the Jets should go after Tebow.

The Jets miss what Brad Smith did for them. They didn't run it enough, but when he ran the wildcat, it was effective. Sparano has plenty of experience with the wildcat.

I think the other stuff figures itself out.

MaTH716 03-21-2012 11:51 AM

Denver traded quarterback Tim Tebow to the NY Jets.

Acoording to Adam Schefter

mclem0822 03-21-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847259)
I mentioned to Golfer on Monday that I thought the Jets should go after Tebow.

The Jets miss what Brad Smith did for them. They didn't run it enough, but when he ran the wildcat, it was effective. Sparano has plenty of experience with the wildcat.

I think the other stuff figures itself out.

They got him. Just traded for a 4th round pick.

jms62 03-21-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847259)
I mentioned to Golfer on Monday that I thought the Jets should go after Tebow.

The Jets miss what Brad Smith did for them. They didn't run it enough, but when he ran the wildcat, it was effective. Sparano has plenty of experience with the wildcat.

I think the other stuff figures itself out.

If Tebow goes to the Jets or Packers then he pretty much is admitting to himself that he is not going to be a starting NFL QB. I think he is way to young to admit this to himself at this point especially with the wins he put up last year.

MaTH716 03-21-2012 11:53 AM

Also:
Saints lost two second-round picks, one in 12 one in 13.

8m Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
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Sean Payton suspended one year. Mickey Loomis 8 game and $500,000 fine. Saints fined $500,000 and a second round pick in 2012 and 2012
.

In addition:
Rams DC Gregg Williams suspended indefinitely but will miss at least 2012 season for his role with Saints bounty program

jms62 03-21-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 847262)
If Tebow goes to the Jets or Packers then he pretty much is admitting to himself that he is not going to be a starting NFL QB. I think he is way to young to admit this to himself at this point especially with the wins he put up last year.

And he gets traded to the Jets while I am submitting the above post... Like omitting 1 horse from a P4 leg and losing

jms62 03-21-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 847263)
Also:
Saints lost two second-round picks, one in 12 one in 13.

8m Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
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Sean Payton suspended one year. Mickey Loomis 8 game and $500,000 fine. Saints fined $500,000 and a second round pick in 2012 and 2012
.

In addition:
Rams DC Gregg Williams suspended indefinitely but will miss at least 2012 season for his role with Saints bounty program

That is way too stiff a penalty for something that I am sure has been going on since the NFL was founded.

MaTH716 03-21-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 847265)
That is way too stiff a penalty for something that I am sure has been going on since the NFL was founded.

Agreed, but once it came out it's a black eye against the league and we all know how much they frown upon that. So now they have to go overboard on the punishment.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 847262)
If Tebow goes to the Jets or Packers then he pretty much is admitting to himself that he is not going to be a starting NFL QB. I think he is way to young to admit this to himself at this point especially with the wins he put up last year.

I think it's being honest with himself.

I have always said I think Tebow is a very good football player. I don't think he's a starting NFL QB, but he can absolutely be effective if used the right way.

I think it's a win/win for both Tebow and the Jets. They didn't give up much for him and he should be motivated enough to make the best of this situation.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 12:13 PM

Plus, Tannenbaum would have screwed up that 4th round pick anyway. :rolleyes:

timmgirvan 03-21-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 847265)
That is way too stiff a penalty for something that I am sure has been going on since the NFL was founded.

Freaking ridiculous penalty!!! Godell is so full of himself.......:mad:

GBBob 03-21-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 847263)
Also:
Saints lost two second-round picks, one in 12 one in 13.

8m Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details
Sean Payton suspended one year. Mickey Loomis 8 game and $500,000 fine. Saints fined $500,000 and a second round pick in 2012 and 2012
.

In addition:
Rams DC Gregg Williams suspended indefinitely but will miss at least 2012 season for his role with Saints bounty program

If this was horse racing, Payton would only be suspended for games in Louisana and he would be able to appeal, have the suspension stayed for a year, then reduced to 30 days in April 2014.

3kings 03-21-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847270)
I think it's being honest with himself.

I have always said I think Tebow is a very good football player. I don't think he's a starting NFL QB, but he can absolutely be effective if used the right way.

I think it's a win/win for both Tebow and the Jets. They didn't give up much for him and he should be motivated enough to make the best of this situation.

I agree Tebow is a good football player and is professional enough that he will help the Jets. I think Sanchez is soft and the fans yelling for Tebow every week will not help his developement.

MaTH716 03-21-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847270)
I think it's being honest with himself.

I have always said I think Tebow is a very good football player. I don't think he's a starting NFL QB, but he can absolutely be effective if used the right way.

I think it's a win/win for both Tebow and the Jets. They didn't give up much for him and he should be motivated enough to make the best of this situation.

If I was a Jets fan, I would worry about how this is going to impact Sanchez.

Let's face it, we all know what's going as soon as Sanchez hits any kind of bump in the road.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 12:29 PM

I hear you guys and the points are fair. We'll see what Rex is made of as a coach.

Sanchez has been getting booed since he got there. It remains to be seen if he has gotten over last year. Maybe this motivates him and kicks his play up a notch.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 12:41 PM

Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.

3kings 03-21-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847287)
Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.

I'll wager on this.

MaTH716 03-21-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847285)
I hear you guys and the points are fair. We'll see what Rex is made of as a coach.

Sanchez has been getting booed since he got there. It remains to be seen if he has gotten over last year. Maybe this motivates him and kicks his play up a notch.

Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 847289)
I'll wager on this.

OK but you have to take both. I already win the Sanchez bet, we will need to wait on the other outcome.

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Antitrust32 03-21-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 847283)
If I was a Jets fan, I would worry about how this is going to impact Sanchez.

Let's face it, we all know what's going as soon as Sanchez hits any kind of bump in the road.

if sanchez is that big of a sissy he doesnt belong in the NFL. Having Tebow there should motivate Sanchez even more. Tebow has a work ethic that is out of this world.. i know some of the Jets were questioning Sanchez's work ethic... well a guy like Tebow should motivate Sanchez to work as hard as he can and get better. If he doesnt, then maybe he's a lost cause.

I'm jealous of the Jets. they got a heck of a man and football player.


my Green team made a huge move yesterday.. we picked up a pro bowl Middle linebacker for only a 4th round pick and a switch of 3rd round picks. Welcome to Philly DeMeco Ryans!! Finally we have an exceptionally talented guy in the middle of our defense. It's about two years since his injury also.. so he should be getting right back in his prime.

mclem0822 03-21-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 847294)

LOL the circus is shifting to NYC!

Antitrust32 03-21-2012 01:01 PM

hey at least now the Jets dont have to worry about Tebow running over Revis and the Defense in the 4th quarter anymore.

3kings 03-21-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 847290)
Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.

They actually sined WR Chaz Shillens from Oakland who is a terrific tallent that has trouble staying healthy. Tebow will be 3rd string QB with a Kordell Stewart type role which may even include special teams. I would put him as the blocker for the punt team.

3kings 03-21-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 847295)
if sanchez is that big of a sissy he doesnt belong in the NFL. Having Tebow there should motivate Sanchez even more. Tebow has a work ethic that is out of this world.. i know some of the Jets were questioning Sanchez's work ethic... well a guy like Tebow should motivate Sanchez to work as hard as he can and get better. If he doesnt, then maybe he's a lost cause.

I'm jealous of the Jets. they got a heck of a man and football player.


my Green team made a huge move yesterday.. we picked up a pro bowl Middle linebacker for only a 4th round pick and a switch of 3rd round picks. Welcome to Philly DeMeco Ryans!! Finally we have an exceptionally talented guy in the middle of our defense. It's about two years since his injury also.. so he should be getting right back in his prime.

Ryans is a huge pick up, he is their first decent middle linebacker in a few years.

mclem0822 03-21-2012 01:06 PM

Could we see Tony Sparano and the return of the wildcat offense with Tebow? If not then I do not see the football fit for the Jets. I would imagine Sanchez is not very pleased.

mclem0822 03-21-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 847302)
Ryans is a huge pick up, he is their first decent middle linebacker in a few years.

I guess it's a salary dump from Houston's pov. That and he's been injured too often for them. If he's healthy and can stay that way, I agree it's a good trade for Philly.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 847290)
Hoss, I know the off season isn't complete yet, but they haven't addressed anything to help Sanchez out. No upgrades on the line or at reciever, but they have made attempts on acquiring QB's. Who knows what Tebows real role will be, but it has the chance to make things very unconfortable for Ryan and Sanchez. I agree with what you said and we'll see for real how good a coach Ryan really is.

At this point, I really don't think a competition is what's best for Sanchez and the team. It's his 4th year and he's been sucessful in the playoffs. He had a tough year for a team that wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be. But this constant mind f.ucking they are doing to Sanchez can't be good. First Manning, then the extention and now Tebow.

The extention is the mind-boggling part, they believed in him enough to give him the extention, but now bring in Tebow. I guess if they didn't give it to him, I could almost understand the trade a little better. But unless the Jets come out today and say they traded for Tebow to convert him into something else, this situation is going to get ugly fast.

I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847287)
Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.

I'll take this bet for whatever amount you want.

mclem0822 03-21-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847311)
I disagree completely concerning Sanchez. He's been coddled enough. Time to get tough with him.

The extension is because they believe in him. But bringing in Tebow addresses issues they had offensively. They struggled in short yardage situations and the wildcat will open stuff up.

I love the move. As long as roles are explained and everyone does what they are supposed to (a big if) it will work out well. If not, they didn't give up much.

They just said on NFL Radio, the true reason behind the extension was salary cap related. They did not elaborate, but I did hear that.

RockHardTen1985 03-21-2012 01:17 PM

The Jets are a joke, and this just confirms it even more. Check out the thug CB's comments. I hope Tebow mans up to that chump and his 23 kids. Jets are trash. Really though, would it be a longshot if they finish last this year?? Im pretty sure Buffalo will be better then them. We shall see...

RockHardTen1985 03-21-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847287)
Tebow beats him out for the top spot in camp.
Sanchez is very lazy not all that talented and doesn't know how to workout for a job.

Not in camp, bet it before week 6.

Antitrust32 03-21-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 847309)
I guess it's a salary dump from Houston's pov. That and he's been injured too often for them. If he's healthy and can stay that way, I agree it's a good trade for Philly.

yeah i guess Houston needed money off the books.. they've gotten rid of a lot of real good players this offseason.

plus Ryans is a real, true MIKE in a 4-3 defense. he's not as well off as an inside LB in a 3-4.

supposedly he was getting back his speed and form by the end of last year. as long as he doesnt re-injure the heel, he should be awesome. the philly paper is calling him a trotter/ seth joyner mold.

thank you Housten. even in the worst case scenerio we only lose a 4th round pick.

Antitrust32 03-21-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 847320)
The Jets are a joke, and this just confirms it even more. Check out the thug CB's comments. I hope Tebow mans up to that chump and his 23 kids. Jets are trash. Really though, would it be a longshot if they finish last this year?? Im pretty sure Buffalo will be better then them. We shall see...

Tebow > Cromartie

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847315)
I'll take this bet for whatever amount you want.

odds?

Which one? Tebow or sanchez?

The Sanchez statement is fact so you would've already lost.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 847320)
The Jets are a joke, and this just confirms it even more. Check out the thug CB's comments. I hope Tebow mans up to that chump and his 23 kids. Jets are trash. Really though, would it be a longshot if they finish last this year?? Im pretty sure Buffalo will be better then them. We shall see...

Oh boy.

Dahoss 03-21-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 847327)
odds?

Which one? Tebow or sanchez?

The Sanchez statement is fact so you would've already lost.

Don't play dumb. You said Tebow will beat him out as starter in camp. I disagree.

Clip-Clop 03-21-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 847335)
Don't play dumb. You said Tebow will beat him out as starter in camp. I disagree.

It was a joke, I am willing to wager but since I do not know you I will keep it fun. $20 says Tebow starts over Sanchez.


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