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SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683516)
i see...what they do is horrible, so we should take a page from their book and act in kind. i thought we were better than that.

I don't think it's wrong to expect them to say they don't believe in the practices in the Koran that are against American Law. Don't think it's a page from their book to want them to say they respect our laws. I think people would be much more in favor of this location, if they would just do that. They won't, cuz they would be coming out against fellow Moslems. They want their cake, n' eat it too. We are guilty of letting them get away with it.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683520)
by these statements, i see you didn't bother to go to the links i posted that show all the islamic statements by people in this country, as well as others, who spoke out against the terrorist attacks.
as for not agreeing with their religion-so don't convert to islam. allowing that building two blocks from the tower site won't cause conversions, it doesn't break any laws, and it won't protect anyone who happens to be islam who chooses to break a law. your discomfort with their religion doesn't mean they aren't free to practice it.
our laws, our guaranteed rights are for everyone, not just those deemed popular, not just those approved with a majority. it's why free speech is allowed, not just unobjectionable free speech.

There are a lot of reasons why people aren't allowed to open up shop in a location. Public input is involved. Nobody can tell them not to open a Mosque. "Where at" is another story. I find adult sex shops a hell of a lot safer than what is produced in Mosques, but sex shops can't just open up anywhere they want.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 683593)
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And 100% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes, but you know that the majority doesn't always rule.

I'm not addressing this at you, but they have the LEGAL right to build this wherever they want.

If that's true, then why did 9 people have to vote on it? Seems the public does have a say where something can be built. There is public input on zoning.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 683784)
This 2 year old seems to make a lot of people jealous.




I welcome your slurs..they add to the legend.

Jealous? You're in fkn Cleveland!! Damn!! Who is jealous of this? Even Lebron can't run away quick enough.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 683616)
Much the same as ElPrezBo embraces the constitution when it suits his needs - albeit infrequently?

It shouldn't be a right vs. left issue.

Should be a zoning issue. Period. The Public doesn't want it there. Build the hate center further away from the 9/11 site. Build 10 in Newark. Nobody will probably care that much.

clyde 08-16-2010 04:06 PM

I'll let you continue your assault upon yourself.





googlies!!

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 683804)
I'll let you continue your assault upon yourself.





googlies!!

Go kill ya some gnats.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683655)
Please cast more stones. You and Riot continue to be unable to discuss an issue without trying to color others as something they are not. Pot meet kettle.

Acting as though this site isn't far different than almost every other site in the country seems silly.

See, again, it's obviously not a meaningful site to them. They aren't that bent about it. Just another damn tourist attraction to these people. This is the main reason they don't have a problem with the zoning choice. if you don't care why something happened, then why would you care about the zoning in the aftermath? They don't particularly care about the specifics involved with the disaster (at all.) That might mean having to place guilt on someone, and then actually doing something about it. Just ignore the root cause, because it'd be hell for someone's feelings to get hurt.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-16-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683520)
by these statements, i see you didn't bother to go to the links i posted that show all the islamic statements by people in this country, as well as others, who spoke out against the terrorist attacks.

Honey, if you've got links to Moslems directly speaking out against the actual words of Mo (that these terrorists were following,) then I'll gladly look at it. Anything else is useless bullshit artist stuff that they are expert at producing.

Nascar1966 08-16-2010 04:44 PM

Just was reading that Reid was against this mosque. He is probably trying to save his job since no one likes him now.

Danzig 08-16-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683592)
Because of drug dealers, not Christians.

so...you can tell me you know for sure that the dope dealers are all people who don't go to church? lol
catholic priests who were found to have molested kids went to church every day. im pretty sure they felt they were christians. being christian doesn't keep you from breaking laws, just like being islamic, jewish, hindu doesn't keep everyone on the right path.

but at least you are showing you can keep criminal behavior separate from religion, and don't think one has to do with the other. that's good.

Antitrust32 08-16-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683844)
so...you can tell me you know for sure that the dope dealers are all people who don't go to church? lol
catholic priests who were found to have molested kids went to church every day. im pretty sure they felt they were christians. being christian doesn't keep you from breaking laws, just like being islamic, jewish, hindu doesn't keep everyone on the right path.

but at least you are showing you can keep criminal behavior separate from religion, and don't think one has to do with the other. that's good.

so you are saying that the Terrorists did NOT kill in the name of Allah?

Danzig 08-16-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683655)
Please cast more stones. You and Riot continue to be unable to discuss an issue without trying to color others as something they are not. Pot meet kettle.

Acting as though this site isn't far different than almost every other site in the country seems silly. Just as Riot can't seem to come to grips with stating that Muslims terrorists have twice attacked the area doesn't mean you think all Muslims are terrorists, pretending that this site won't be a target BECAUSE of the location is myopic at best.

This idealism believing that somehow all things are equal and the world is a logical place runs contrary to real life.

again, why is the site incendiary? recognizing the religion of the perpetrators, while failing to consider that islamic people were also victims in this attack is ignoring fact. if a church wants to honor it's dead, that's ok...but a mosque wants to reach out in that area, it's wrong. that ignores the fact that muslims were victims that day, not just christians.


i'm really just surprised that this thread is so long, considering everyone concedes they have a right to build there. i heard today that the idiots who protest at funerals have been shown to have the right, due to free speech laws. it's unpalatable, shows insensitivity, but can't be blocked without being unconstitutional.

the rule of law must prevail. you can't disallow this building, i don't understand why so many are so vocal about this, when there's really nowhere to stand against it.
all nyc can do about this is to change the zoning, and i don't see that happening.

Danzig 08-16-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 683846)
so you are saying that the Terrorists did NOT kill in the name of Allah?

i think they can try to justify it however they wish. i think they are using religion as a way to garner support from other believers in that faith. i don't care why they did it honestly. anyone engaging in criminal behavior should be treated accordingly. anyone who aids them should be as well. however, having been raised as catholic, i'd hate for someone to lump me in with child molesting priests or the church who allowed it.
what we need to be is very careful that we don't change our beliefs, our freedoms, because of the actions of a few rotten to the core people.


john adams was a lawyer who was asked to handle a very tricky case-this was pre-declaration of independance. he was asked to be council for the accused who was charged with instigating the boston massacre. now, just think about how unpopular that british soldier was, and how much grief adams knew he'd get if he took the case. hell, his own cousin samuel was the leader of the sons of liberty. but he knew that the rule of law had to prevail, and he took that case. and he won, the man was found not guilty. i'd rather we all follow his lead in this case. don't you think that's what should happen? are our laws, the very foundation of this country, to be ignored in this case, because the group concerned is unpopular, a minority group? i hope not. and how much does that piece of paper really mean if we aren't able to follow it when it is tough to follow? the right way isn't always the easy way. would it be easy for me to say, yes, ban them. don't build it! absolutely. but it would be wrong. nazis, kkk marches, i detest them. but they are allowed for a reason. what do we say when they occur? ignore it, don't give them the benefit of seeing you upset. it's what they live for. we have to be gender neutral, color blind, we must be the same when it comes to religion. we must be able to differentiate between a criminal, and a person. sharing this religion is not criminal. your actions make you so. unless someone breaks a law, they should be left in peace. it's what i'd want, it's what you'd want.

Danzig 08-16-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683677)
Iran doesn't hate us. Iran's leaders use us as a justification for their behavior. The clerics used our relations with the Shah as a justification to create the anarchy that allowed them to rise to power and hold it.
And is there a greater example of Islamic intolerence than what is regularly said about or done to Israel by Muslims?

Do you hate Venezuela because their leader claims he hates us and has befriended the Iranians? The Iranian people hate their govt far worse than they hate us.

now, there's an a-ha moment. change iran to islam. change iran's leaders to terrorist leaders. now, does that help you to understand why i say you can't tar this whole religion? it's the same thing. the press fastens on the few crackpot zealots, and ignores the masses who just want to live in peace.

and no, i don't hate venezuelans, i feel bad for them, as well as iranians and any other people who have to labor under a system like that. it's got to be awful.

Danzig 08-16-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 683683)
So hypothetically lets say there is a neighborhood where children have been assulted sexualy by some sick freaks years ago. In this neighborhood NAMBLA wanted to build a building where people of like minds could meet and discuss their common intrests, does anyone think that it would be ok?
Its very akin to the subject at hand, the people who are offended by the thought of a Mosque being built in close proximity to where practishoners of a certain religion commited crimes against thousands of people are no diffirent than anyone else who have been a victim of a crime.
I just dont get why the Muslims feel a need to build a place so close to where their brothers killed Americans for no other reason than hatred.

this has got to be the worst analogy ever in the history of analogies.

again, muslims died that day in the towers. or are you assuming only christians died? those murderers were killing americans, they didn't stop to make sure what religion everyone belonged to.

Danzig 08-16-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 683788)
Well, they do all go by what the same butcher had to say. I'd like to hear them make an effort to separate themselves from the terrorists, rather than you doing it. This Imam has said that America was partially to blame for 9/11. Right there, you should have a problem with this, but you don't. See, he won't come out and say the scum in his religion were wrong, and they are to blame.

i don't? when did i say that? that would be like saying a robbed bank was partially at fault because they had all that money and were asking for it.
and i have seen where members of that religion have spoken out against the terrorist acts, but you keep ignoring that. not once have you conceded that point, accepted that it has happened.


but you're right about zoning. if there is no other similar building in that area, the city can re-zone. whether they can do so and get away with it, i don't know. if other religious buildings are in that area, they haven't got a leg to stand on in that regard.

dellinger63 08-16-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 683823)
Just was reading that Reid was against this mosque. He is probably trying to save his job since no one likes him now.

in the village idiot's mind he had a bad day!

H'mmmmm Reid against Obama

Hope Riot starts a new thread or I willl

clyde 08-16-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683850)
this has got to be the worst analogy ever in the history of analogies.

again, muslims died that day in the towers. or are you assuming only christians died? those murderers were killing americans, they didn't stop to make sure what religion everyone belonged to.


You are searching for misspells in Einstein's e=mcboom!!




I think most do see her logic.

dellinger63 08-16-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 683850)
this has got to be the worst analogy ever in the history of analogies.

again, muslims died that day in the towers. or are you assuming only christians died? those murderers were killing americans, they didn't stop to make sure what religion everyone belonged to.

funny thing is there are Muslim sites who say the Jews did it to bash them and the evidence was some Jewish CEO's who weren't in the towers. Of course they neglected to say they weren't even in the country as well.

Riot 08-16-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 683539)
You being able to post on Nerdy Trail is wrong.


If I ever win the lotto.. I'm going to buy you a one way ticket to Iran. You can be with your peeps there. I give you my word that you will get this gift if I ever strike it rich.

You'll just have to put on your big girl pants and suffer. Life is so unfair to you. Poor unhappy you.

Riot 08-16-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 683568)
No one is arguing the premise of religious freedom. But simply asked, "Why there."

Because the Muslim population of that mosque predates the building of the World Trade Center. There are other mosques near WTC site. Because these Americans live and work and pray in their neighborhood, a neighborhood that was blown to bits by terrorists on 9-11. Because they've been in that location forever - which nobody cared about until the right wing whackjobs decided to scream DEATH TO AMERICA OHMYGAWD THE EVIL MUSLIMS - and they simply want to update and expand a building that is already an integral part of the community. They are already there, and have been there.

dellinger63 08-16-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683902)
You'll just have to put on your big girl pants and suffer. Life is so unfair to you. Poor unhappy you.

:):):)

Gotta love it especially what you did is what you accused Chuck of doing which he didn't!

Bravo

JC* would be proud



*Jimmy Carter idiots not Jesus Christ

Riot 08-16-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 683592)
Because of drug dealers, not Christians.

Most of Mexico is Catholic. Including the drug dealers.

dellinger63 08-16-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683907)
Because the Muslim population of that mosque predates the building of the World Trade Center. There are other mosques near WTC site. Because these Americans live and work and pray in their neighborhood, a neighborhood that was blown to bits by terrorists on 9-11. Because they've been in that location forever - which nobody cared about until the right wing whackjobs decided to scream DEATH TO AMERICA OHMYGAWD THE EVIL MUSLIMS - and they simply want to update and expand a building that is already an integral part of the community. They are already there, and have been there.


Then why build a second mosque. Why not say we respect our neighbors and we'll expand?

dellinger63 08-16-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683913)
Most of Mexico is Catholic. Including the drug dealers.

and say prayers while they're dealing?

Knock knock reality calling!!!!

Riot 08-16-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683912)
:):):)

Gotta love it especially what you did is what you accused Chuck of doing which he didn't!

Bravo

JC* would be proud



*Jimmy Carter idiots not Jesus Christ

No, Dell, I did not do what I accused Chuck of doing. I said Chuck was being disingenuous (and yes, he was). Lori is just a yapping internet troll.

hi_im_god 08-16-2010 08:47 PM

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ATE/100809871#

in a related story, the museum of irony opened a new exhibit on the museum of tolerance.

Riot 08-16-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 683797)
There are a lot of reasons why people aren't allowed to open up shop in a location. Public input is involved. Nobody can tell them not to open a Mosque. "Where at" is another story. I find adult sex shops a hell of a lot safer than what is produced in Mosques, but sex shops can't just open up anywhere they want.

They have been praying at this very location for some years now. The "mosque" is already there. And has been.

Where was your outrage over that for the past 10 years?

dellinger63 08-16-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683922)
No, Dell, I did not do what I accused Chuck of doing. I said Chuck was being disingenuous (and yes, he was). Lori is just a yapping internet troll.

I'm talking about maybe 3 mos. ago. I can look it up.

It was after the stupid 'Carter and Obama get it' thing and before the stupid 'post office does a fine job' thing. You're becoming a Bible LOL

Riot 08-16-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 683923)
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ATE/100809871#

in a related story, the museum of irony opened a new exhibit on the museum of tolerance.

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The new Museum of Tolerance New York opened in the heart of Manhattan this week, citing an ambitious mission to help enlighten city residents and tourists on issues of discrimination, prejudice and social inequality.

But the museum's financial backer, the Wiesenthal Center of Los Angeles, says it cannot tolerate the planned location near Ground Zero for a mosque and Islamic community center.

Rabbi Meyer May, the Wiesenthal Center's executive director, on Thursday called the mosque's proposed location “insensitive” to the people who experienced the 9/11 attack that killed nearly 3,000 in 2001 and are still dealing with “extraordinarily painful wounds.”
We are doomed. As a country of principle, we are doomed. Some of the founding fathers feared their new republic may not be able to last.

Riot 08-16-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683917)
and say prayers while they're dealing?

Knock knock reality calling!!!!

Knock knock, reality to Dell, going to church, supporting their local church financially - and controlling the town. Murdering opposition. Making millions from drugs. Criminals are not immune from embracing the trappings of religion.

dellinger63 08-16-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683933)
Knock knock, reality to Dell, going to church, supporting their local church financially - and controlling the town. Murdering opposition. Making millions from drugs. Criminals are not immune from embracing the trappings of religion.


so mexican drug lords are operating because of their God? Maybe to get diez virgins? Realty check twice and maybe checkmate?

Riot 08-16-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683939)
so mexican drug lords are operating because of their God? Maybe to get diez virgins? Realty check twice and maybe checkmate?

Sigh ... perhaps you could read the posts again, so you would know the context.

Riot 08-16-2010 09:23 PM

One writer's opinion
 
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Monday, Aug 16, 2010 07:01 ET
By Justin Elliott

How the "ground zero mosque" fear mongering began

A group of progressive Muslim-Americans plans to build an Islamic community center two and a half blocks from ground zero in lower Manhattan. They have had a mosque in the same neighborhood for many years. There's another mosque two blocks away from the site. City officials support the project. Muslims have been praying at the Pentagon, the other building hit on Sept. 11, for many years.

In short, there is no good reason that the Cordoba House project should have been a major national news story, let alone controversy. And yet it has become just that, dominating the political conversation for weeks and prompting such a backlash that, according to a new poll, nearly 7 in 10 Americans now say they oppose the project. How did the Cordoba House become so toxic, so fast?

In a story last week, the New York Times, which framed the project in a largely positive, noncontroversial light last December, argued that it was cursed from the start by "public relations missteps." But this isn't accurate. To a remarkable extent, a Salon review of the origins of the story found, the controversy was kicked up and driven by Pamela Geller, a right-wing, viciously anti-Muslim, conspiracy-mongering blogger, whose sinister portrayal of the project was embraced by Rupert Murdoch's New York Post.

Here's a timeline of how it all happened:

* Dec. 8, 2009: The Times publishes a lengthy front-page look at the Cordoba project. "We want to push back against the extremists," Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the lead organizer, is quoted as saying. Two Jewish leaders and two city officials, including the mayor's office, say they support the idea, as does the mother of a man killed on 9/11. An FBI spokesman says the imam has worked with the bureau. Besides a few third-tier right-wing blogs, including Pamela Geller's Atlas Shrugs site, no one much notices the Times story.

* Dec. 21, 2009: Conservative media personality Laura Ingraham interviews Abdul Rauf's wife, Daisy Khan, while guest-hosting "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox. In hindsight, the segment is remarkable for its cordiality. "I can't find many people who really have a problem with it," Ingraham says of the Cordoba project, adding at the end of the interview, "I like what you're trying to do."

# (This segment also includes onscreen the first use that we've seen of the misnomer "ground zero mosque.") After the segment — and despite the front-page Times story — there were no news articles on the mosque for five and a half months, according to a search of the Nexis newspaper archive.

# May 6, 2010: After a unanimous vote by a New York City community board committee to approve the project, the AP runs a story. It quotes relatives of 9/11 victims (called by the reporter), who offer differing opinions. The New York Post, meanwhile, runs a story under the inaccurate headline, "Panel Approves 'WTC' Mosque." Geller is less subtle, titling her post that day, "Monster Mosque Pushes Ahead in Shadow of World Trade Center Islamic Death and Destruction." She writes on her Atlas Shrugs blog, "This is Islamic domination and expansionism. The location is no accident. Just as Al-Aqsa was built on top of the Temple in Jerusalem." (To get an idea of where Geller is coming from, she once suggested that Malcolm X was Obama's real father. Seriously.)

# May 7, 2010: Geller's group, Stop Islamization of America (SIOA), launches "Campaign Offensive: Stop the 911 Mosque!" (SIOA 's associate director is Robert Spencer, who makes his living writing and speaking about the evils of Islam.) Geller posts the names and contact information for the mayor and members of the community board, encouraging people to write. The board chair later reports getting "hundreds and hundreds" of calls and e-mails from around the world.

# May 8, 2010: Geller announces SIOA's first protest against what she calls the "911 monster mosque" for May 29. She and Spencer and several other members of the professional anti-Islam industry will attend. (She also says that the protest will mark the dark day of "May 29, 1453, [when] the Ottoman forces led by the Sultan Mehmet II broke through the Byzantine defenses against the Muslim siege of Constantinople." The outrage-peddling New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser argues in a note at the end of her column a couple of days later that "there are better places to put a mosque."

# May 13, 2010: Peyser follows up with an entire column devoted to "Mosque Madness at Ground Zero." This is a significant moment in the development of the "ground zero mosque" narrative: It's the first newspaper article that frames the project as inherently wrong and suspect, in the way that Geller has been framing it for months. Peyser in fact quotes Geller at length and promotes the anti-mosque protest of Stop Islamization of America, which Peyser describes as a "human-rights group." Peyser also reports — falsely — that Cordoba House's opening date will be Sept. 11, 2011.

Lots of opinion makers on the right read the Post, so it's not surprising that, starting that very day, the mosque story spread through the conservative — and then mainstream — media like fire through dry grass. Geller appeared on Sean Hannity's radio show. The Washington Examiner ran an outraged column about honoring the 9/11 dead. So did Investor's Business Daily. Smelling blood, the Post assigned news reporters to cover the ins and outs of the Cordoba House development daily. Fox News, the Post's television sibling, went all out.

Within a month, Rudy Giuliani had called the mosque a "desecration." Within another month, Sarah Palin had tweeted her famous "peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate" tweet. Peter King and Newt Gingrich and Tim Pawlenty followed suit — with political reporters and television news programs dutifully covering "both sides" of the controversy.

Geller had succeeded beyond her wildest dreams.
http://www.salon.com/news/ground_zer...mosque_origins

dellinger63 08-16-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683944)
Sigh ... perhaps you could read the posts again, so you would know the context.

and you need to answer why build a 2nd mosque if there is already one there?

and in your mind did Obama submit to the mosque being built or support it?

Riot 08-16-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683957)
and you need to answer why build a 2nd mosque if there is already one there?

Well, no, I don't "need" to answer anything. I think you "need" to educate yourself on this subject. If you had paid attention to any of the background in the news on this story at all, over the past months, you'd know that there are multiple mosques in that neighborhood, always have been, just as there are multiple churches in it. The group in question doesn't own "all" the mosques in that neighborhood, just like different congregations support different churches in that neighborhood.

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and in your mind did Obama submit to the mosque being built or support it?
I think the President was right to remind the haters that religious persecution of their fellow Americans is against the Constitution, and not what we stand for in America. That he had to do that is appalling and scary for this country.

dellinger63 08-16-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683962)
Well, no, I don't "need" to answer anything. I think you "need" to educate yourself on this subject. If you had paid attention to any of the background in the news on this story at all, over the past months, you'd know that there are multiple mosques in that neighborhood, always have been, just as there are multiple churches in it. The group in question doesn't own "all" the mosques in that neighborhood, just like different congregations support different churches in that neighborhood..

so now there is not one but multiple mosques in the area and yet they want another?

Ok I call bullshit and now show a map of the multiple mosques in the area!

PS Apartments with rugs and bad music don't count

dellinger63 08-16-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 683962)



I think the President was right to remind the haters that religious persecution of their fellow Americans is against the Constitution, and not what we stand for in America. That he had to do that is appalling and scary for this country.


Please you would think it right if the President cut off the clitoris of a 13 yr. old. Provided she ate a Michelle approved lunch. :D

Riot 08-16-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 683980)
so now there is not one but multiple mosques in the area and yet they want another?

Ok I call bullshit and now show a map of the multiple mosques in the area!

PS Apartments with rugs and bad music don't count

No. You correct your own damn ignorance. I'm tired of it. "The group in question doesn't own "all" the mosques in that neighborhood, just like different congregations support different churches in that neighborhood."

It's not a difficult concept. Look at any of many news stories and background stories on this - there were several last weekend with maps showing the mosques within a mile or so.

You know, so the people who didn't like a mosque "two blocks from" ground zero could be asked what they thought about the mosque already "four blocks" from ground zero. Or the one "six blocks" from ground zero.


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