OK lets recap

you RIOT former repubicaan :zz: said " "Obama has a strong interest in, and understanding of, the myriad of complexities involving the various countries in the middle east. Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter had (and has) the same. Both "get it"

and I said

and with that strong interest and understanding of Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter has come to the conclusion that the persecution of the Palestinians now,(by Isreal) under the occupying territories—under the occupation forces—is one of the worst examples of human rights deprivation that he knows. Worse than Rwanda.

GET IT cause this is GOLDEN

and better than internet or shucking corn

peppermints to all horses!!!!!!!!!

I believe Gore's exact quote was, "I took the initiative in inventing the internet."

He didn't ask me a question. He made a statement (a full-diaper rant.) Why are you involved? You his f'n nurse?

I have to give this one a bump. Nice work Zig.:tro:

This is the highlight of the thread. :tro:

Jeb Bush. Jeb f ucking bush. LOL.

Gales, i dont care what anyone says...you are money!

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I guess: "You write something that somebody doesn't like, and they're gunna get as personal as they can."

NT

Why has your typing and grammar improved so much? What have you done with the real Scuds?

They should be sending shipping instructions for that trophy any day now.

watched it a few times but still don't hear the word 'really' before the word proud. Of course stupid me thought I knew the definition of 'is' until Clinton enlightened us all of the many different meanings of 'is'. Changed my signature anyway.

Seriously, Dell, I have said, repeatedly, in the other thread, that just because I admire both men for their interest in and understanding of the middle east, it doesn't mean I agree with all their foreign policy positions, or that I think all their foreign policy positions are correct. This whole thing arose because of discussion regarding Obama and his familial Muslim ties through his estranged father, and the great acceptance of his Cairo speech in the Muslim world. Are you just unable to understand that subtlety?

And btw, Colin Powell isn't even close to being "a lefty" via any objective analysis - his patriotism not withstanding :tro:

Bill Maher (who I can barely stand) said something good on CNN, and darn if I don't agree with Bill Maher on this one (this from the CNN website):

"Part of the problem is that we don't really have a progressive party in this country. We have the Democrats, who are what the Republicans used to be when I was a kid. They are a pro-business party; a corporate friendly, pro-business party. And then we have the Republicans, which are just just a club for angry white people and Jesus freaks. I don't know what they are."

[That Obama is moving the country towards socialism] is "so ridiculous because Barack Obama is not a socialist, he's not even a liberal. That's the point I'm trying to make. This country needs a left-wing. It doesn't have it.
So really what we have is a debate between the center-right, the Democratic party, and the far, far, far right, the Republican party. "

I would add that the 30% or so of the GOP that left last November to vote for Obama would return to the GOP, gladly, if the GOP returned to what they used to be, what I've known my whole life.

Thanks :)

Now I had to know the whole story, so I went and looked it up, yes, just another perpetuated false rumor (because it sounds so good), he was talking about internet technology initiatives, not "literally inventing" the internet. The entire long quote, and context, is here:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

I thought Clinton was more famous for the absolutely specific, technical meaning of "sex", as he personally was thinking of at that brief moment in time when he was asked the question, and he said, "I did not have sex with that woman" (well, okay, in your world, where "sex" is only A, and never B, C, D, E .... ) :zz:

you admire a man who has a hitleresque view of Isreal. That has been my point all along...

since you agree with this I'm interested in how Colin Powell fits?

I've got the swing for this pitch. Let me 1st ask for guidance (from ye wise talk show friend.)

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You agree that the Democrats are a corporate friendly, pro business party? Wow.

If 30% of the GOP voted for Obama why did he only get 53% of the popular vote? Those numbers dont add up.

no way i'd call the dems a pro-business corporate friendly party. i'm not sure where maher is getting that from at all.

Strike one (I swung too hard.) Trying the more compact swing.

Strike 2(borderline call)....I'm out(did a Bradley n' got tossed.)

You realize that 30% of the GOP isn't equal to 30% of all voters? :rolleyes:

Obama got 9% of the Republican vote.

Yet I don't support any alleged "hitleresque" (sic) view of Israel in the least. How about that?

Born-again George W. Bush elevated the simplistic view to an art. Good. Evil. No in between. That's what scares so many about Obama, I think. The complexity.

tell me he wouldn't be more qualified to be president than Barack - go over the backgrounds and the executive leadership ability and tell me how obama is more qualified than him for the job

Gales, the guy should be running a damn funeral home.

obama?

Thank You!!!!
That's all I wanted all along....

and for me it's not the complexity that scares me it's the complacency that scares me, ie N Korea say they're going to fire a missle towards Hawaii and us 'hoping' it will be short.

Jeb has no charisma. Get a clue. He's a sleeping agent.

yeah and Obama couldn't direct a 2 car funeral

again i'll ask the question - what qualifications did Mr Obama have over Jeb Bush to be president of the United States

again rather than give me jokes , please give me specifics , executive / leagislative accomplishments that were up and above what Jeb Bush did in 2 terms as Gov of the State of Florida

if obama can win and become president on a thin resume , jeb is more than qualified to be next up in '12

It's more about electability

1) A third Bush?
2) A guy known as the ringleader of the crew that stole it from Gore?

bob good am - thx for dodging the specifics questions about obama/jeb

but

it won't matter 4 yrs from now , if we sink further in to a black hole , and taxes continue to rise on local and state levels , and people have fewer and fewr dollars in their pocket , people won't vote for hope and change, they'll vote for the candidate that may best serve us in the future , that maybe Jeb Bush , that may not be Jeb Bush , but time will tell

As for point #2 - it was a democrat that approved the ballot in Plam Beach Ctny that made it hard for the seniors living there to distinguish between Gore and Buchanan - Jeb Bush had nothing to do with what happened in Palm Beach County , the lady who was running the democratic party knew she had elderly voters in centur city , yet she didn't get a valid ballot out , and that is what started the whole fiasco

oh and by the way Gore could have been president if he had won his home state - Tenneessee , who fixed that one???

You realize that throwing numbers out there that not only arent valid but arent mathmatically valid weakens your take on things? Surely if 1/3 of the GOP voted for Obama he would have had a far greater margin of victory unless an unusually high % of Democrats voted against him (which didnt happen)

What does George Bush have to do with Jimmy Carter? Carters views on Isreal and a Palestine state are hardly complex. He has identified the good and evil in his mind.

Yeah Obama's complexity is scary. Where do you get this stuff???

I guess it's equal to 9%? So the GOP accounts for just under 30% of all voters? Who were all the Dems who voted for McCain/Palin then?

He doesn't have the talent. You get a lil hung up on qualifications(leaders are more born than made.) The main qualification is to be a great leader. That guy your talking about can lead a funeral home.

I wasn't dodging it because I don't disagree with it, at least from the Right's perspective. My only "conern" about your comparison had to do with electability, not qualifications

outside of being a talented speaker , how has obama shown he can lead a country let alone a 2 car funeral - i don't get it

The last democratic was a leader - he had it all , charm ,charism , ability to talk and a record of improving a state over 2 terms as governor