the horse was sold to other connections,and they want to run her in preakness why, no chance for TC, can't be the money. JJ is just an egotistical limelight sucker fish .

i do understand it's business and Borel has to think of no 1, but i'm old school and a deal is a deal, because the original owners sold herBorel should have stayed with MTD, and the owners did'nt care if Asmussen uses Borel or not.

I'd think they would say F-Calvin and stick with the preakness winning jockey.

you just might be right, i don't think RA is a gimme. She has beaten only fillies has had it her way, and beat nobody by 20 lenghts la-tee-da, she can be beat by this group, so let's hear it.

if RA is this good , it shouldn't matter who riders her , i know steve talked about it earlier already , but surely if this is the greatest filly as people on here have said , any jock s/b to ride her and win next sat .... this thought came from my old bud -

as my old friend dixie porter used to say the horse makes the jock

come on Hoss he had no mount, he agreeds to ride in derby gets his win and now wants to bale out on their chance for a TC ? To ride a so-called sure thing in RA? he has no commitment to new owners when filly was sold

rachel is a tyrant with her exercise rider, but they said she relaxes for calvin and does what he tells her. i'd have kept him too.

This may sound stupid because the value of the preakness, but what are the chances that someone says screw JJ for buying RA and does whatever they can do to ensure that RA has a hell of a time winning the preakness, kind of what they did to Smarty Jones.

bailey is will be in baltimore next sat , who knows maybe he comes out of retirement:eek:

:wf good luck on preakness

What's Borel's ROI for straight win bets?

Come on Stan, it's not like he's jumping off a horse that was even considered a contender for the Kentucky Derby, let alone the triple crown. Reguardless of whichever horse Borel ends up on, the Mine that Bord people should be indebted to Calvin for the rest of his life. Calvin gave that horse the ideal trip and put him in a spot where he could win. If it wasn't for Calvin they would probably be on the way back to Sunland park.
As far as his kentucky Derby wins, I disagree with you. Those were two money rides he gave both times he's won the derby. One with a favorite and one with a bomb. He proved that he's a big game jock and he should have mounts in that race for years to come. He will have another chance at TC down the road. But right now he has a chance to go into the books with a filly that might eventually be considered a legend one day.

Mind the Bird isn't going to pull it off and lightning doesnt strike in the same place twice. Borel made a money making choice.............

Sort of like what Woody Stephens had Pat Day do to Winning Colors back in 1988. She still finished a respectable third. Forty Niner was nowhere to be found.

After what happened last Saturday at Churchill, anything is possible, and i believe MTB just might moved up again off that effort, and not bounce. not saying he will win just he will give a good account of himself, it wasn't just the inside ride, the horse has some talent.

From the DRF:

No jockey has ever taken off a Derby winner to ride a different horse in the Preakness. The last time a jockey abandoned a Derby winner for his next race was in 1985, when Angel Cordero Jr. gave up a mount on Spend a Buck in the Jersey Derby in order to ride Track Barron in the Metropolitan Handicap the same day. In 1945, Eddie Arcaro won the Derby on Hoop Jr., but Al Snider rode Hoop Jr. one week later in the Preakness, when Arcaro opted to ride that day at Belmont Park.

I don't have the patience ( or interest ) to read this entire thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what has already been said, but I think it is a big mistake if they run Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness. To run her in a race she wasn't pointing for, so quickly after purchasing her, is a recipe for disaster. What's the hurry? If they really want to run in the TC then wait for the Belmont. Or else, run her in the Acorn or Mother Goose......and then the Whitney. Who exactly are the tigers she should be so worried about in there? Plus, it's four weeks before the Travers if they want to go there as well.

let's all not forget, Calvin had no mount in the derby, and would have had no ride if not for them. look at the money,prestige of 2nd derby they gave him.

What's your opinion on Calvin Borel's choice to ride RA instead of MTB ?

What a NYRA homer...

Oh courses its a mistake to race her in the Preakness.. I still think its likely she wins

Calvin Borel is THE reason Mine That Bird won the Derby.

Nothing says anywhere that Rachel Alexandra is a confirmed starter for the Preakness, nor that Calvin Borel WILL DEFINITELY be the named rider.

Conjecture, conjecture.

I don't comprehend the reasons earlier in this thread why people have a gross distaste for Jess Jackson.

I couldn't possibly care less.

I assumed that was a given.

Any chance they're on the turf tomorrow?

Great Point Steve....It is way to assumptive to figure any jockey can/would win on RA.

Has a 3yo filly ever run in the Whitney (at least in recent memory?)

Exactly what I was thinking KG. Talk about riding with a purpose, and I don't mean winning the race. I could see it happening to RA.

Bring Back Chantal Sutherland!!!!
 

I would have loved to see Calvin stay on Mine That Bird. However, any rider will do as long as they win the Preakness.

PEOPLE, DO WE WANT A TRIPLE CROWN WINNER THIS YEAR????????

How about we give the mount back Chantal Sutherland. She won on Mine That Bird 3 times!!!! She deserves the chance. She knows the horse. Let's go Chantal, Let's go...

I still say, if Chantal was on him in the derby, he would have been 90-1.

he still would have been a tremendous underlay

why not , the headline can read the filly beats the filly

Wow, one the rare times where I agree 100% with with you. You must of read my other posts.

not all horses are difficult. it's important for a horse to have the ability to listen to the rider-it's the difference between a good horse and a really good horse. you have some with all the speed in the world, but if you can't control it, you have a horse like sinister minister...

i wouldn't mind seeing her in the travers. there's a long enough break from next saturday to the august race...should she win in md, i don't see why they couldn't attempt the other.

lmao!!!


ruined in the tc.....like forego? omg

why does he get credit for 18 who didn't fire? he got lucky. getting lucky doesn't mean he was good.