Can't believe the Yanks spend all that money, and I keep seeing that piece of sht Tomko's name in the box scores.

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Yankees are 2-17 this year when they score 3 runs or less.
This is getting ugly!

well when the guy who is being paid $25mm is out partying like a rock star every night and the pitchers are living up to their $$$ either what do you expect

hopefully the red sox will be going on the road soon and maybe we won't keep losing ground , you do know they get an unfair advantage in fenway :D :D

You keep believing that fairy tale Gales. Teams that cant win on the road dont win World Series and traditionally stink in the Playoffs. The Red Sox playoff/world series record since 2003 speaks for itself. They have a better road record so far this year than your Yankees.

A Rod is batting .207?

It's no wonder King Glorious has recently been laying off that absurd notion that A Rod is a better player than Albert Pujols.

This is unfathomable
The Phillies became the first team ever to lose 22 home games by Father's Day.
13-22 at home
24-9 on the road.

This is unheard of!!!! Let Philly keep playing on the road.

How bad do things have to get with the Yankees before we hear talks of Girardi being gone?

Its worked in the past where Steinbrenner has threatened the manager (Torre) and they start winning...

How many games do the Red Sox have to get up before we hear the Girardi buzz?

Don't forget when Billy Martin was being threatened also.

Unfathomable is the best word for this situation. the worst home record and the best road record... yeah that makes sense :zz:

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Originally Posted by Gander How bad do things have to get with the Yankees before we hear talks of Girardi being gone?

i would say once they get behind 5 games in the wild card the rumors will start to come in the newspaper

they could have casey stengel managing or miller huggins - it doesn't matter Cannon Shell is correct - they are too old to be "contenders" and if a-rod continues to be a shell of his former self it won't matter

I conducted a list of best Home/Road records listed back to 2004. The Phils have the smallest differential. In fact with current records, they are the only team that are in the negative at (-8).

Tampa, Milwaukee, and Boston have the largest differential not including this year at 143, 127 and 116 respectively. Most teams hover between 56-93.

no suprise to find them on the list - boston's home cookin is legendary

Good one. How do you explain all the big wins on the road during the Postseasons? Their road record is outstanding.

Save for 2005 when they got blown out by the White Sox, who were probably the best single team of this decade, they have performed very well on the road when it counts, and all those wins came against the best teams:
Yankees, A's,Indians, Angels, Cardinals, Rockies quickly come to mind.

too samll a sample set

look at crown's numbers , it's obvious MLB wants the red sox in the playoffs .....the curse , red sox nation, etc , etc .....how do you explain that they are + 116 over the last 5 yrs playing the same teams with the same players each year....watch the game and look at the differences in strike zones that the umps give to their pitchers vs the road pitchers in fenway , it's almost comical

Angry mob in 3...2...1...

And you claim the calls constantly go against the Yankees, costing them games, and an appearance in last year's postseason, the year before an early exit to the Inidians in round 1.

Now why would the MLB possibility not want the Yankees in the playoffs?

I would think the most popular team in all of sports, whether you love them or hate them, would be great for ratings?

Whats your answer on this?

yup , but the red sox need help from the umps , the yanks can get there on talent

Definately the post of the year!!! :tro: :tro: :wf

i was referring to '04 thru '08 , not necessialry this year:eek:

Oooooooooooooooooh, in that case............:rolleyes:

tell me why it's not the case look at boston's home record

i know someone who watches all the red sox games , it's getting laughable (the strike zone) now , even bobby cox went off about it

they don't get the same treatment on the road ----that's why they win 20 more games a year at home , it's that simple folks

Yeah, Bobby Cox should talk.
But theSox were/are a good team. Are you trying to say that the umps have that much influence that made the Sox play 24 games over .500 at home?

not 24 , they are +116

why can't they beat the same teams on the road over '04-'09 , what, do the good players from the other teams not play(sit on the bench) when they are in boston? i don't think so

i could see 1 yr , maybe 2yr's ,but now we are going on more than a half decade - this has to stop

Ok, so over a 4 year period it's 29 games over .500 at home. So they roughly went 53-29 at home during the last 4 years. With a big bulk of games against the Jays, O's and Rays (who before last year were not good & you can actually throw the bombers in there too). I guess you discount home field advantage. I personally think that they just had damn good teams, period.

yeah but if those teams stink like you say , shouldn't they beat them anywhere , my point is if they played the games on the jersey turnpike boston should win at a healthy clip away from Fenway - the 5 yr peroid suggests they are an average team on the road and a way above average team at home (again 1 or 2 yr sample is too small)

Why do people make me defend the red sox? I hate them but the facts are the facts:

The sox have the best road record in the american league. They did last year as welll

Wouldnt your theory make the Red Sox a very beatable team on the road in the postseason? Explain their success on the road in the postseasons. Dont give me the BS about the sample size. They have performed very well on the road in 4 out of the last 5 postseasons. The one they didnt they only played 2 games on the road and lost both to the White Sox, the year they crushed everybody.

I'll give you this year, but last year was:

LAA by a mile at 50-31
NYY at 41-40
Tampa at 40-41
Texas at 39-42
Boston at 39-42

Sorry :o

{shuts up and sits down}

+116 is the number - it's just laughable

the playoffs are a small sample set tim and you know it

They were obviously a very good team. They won 2 world series (sweeping both teams) and then they lost the pennent in 7 games.
So what is your point and conclusion? Is it that the umps make them be 29 games over .500 at home or is the water in the visitor's clubhouse tainted? Cause I'm guessing that they were a good team is not it.

palyoffs are random - 3 short series

i just wanted to get some opinions of what people think , i can see it happening 1 or 2 years , but now we are going on 5+yrs of almost 60 wins at home and .500 or sub .500 ball on the road - they are playin the same teams , watch some games in full , watch the strike zone for their pitchers on the road vs home ...see if you notice anything , bobby cox sure did

For one thing, how do you define a home game, because it seems like they usually have the majority of the crowd with them (in most games they play.) Look at that crowd in Washington last night. That's a problem that needs to be dealt with. Spray to rid your space of this vermin.

The theory that the umpires favor the Red Sox at home and screw the Yankees is preposterous. The fact is that the Red Sox have a much better front office who have built a real team as opposed to the yankees who consistently trot out a fantasy league team with no regard to defense or a bullpen outside a closer. And what do you think they will do after Mariano leaves?

chuck - watch the strike zones a few games at fenway , then watch them on the road

i wouldn't make a big stink , but, a buddy of mine has been tracking this stuff , and 5+ yrs is getting ridiculous ---20 games more a year at home they are winning

Gales I watch far too many baseball games as it is. Anyone that "tracks" that kind of stuff without using the technology found at mlb.coms gamecast is wasting their time. And if there was a trend that favored the Red Sox you can bet your ass that they would have been outed already. It is so stupid that I would seriously advise you not to repeat this in public unless you are solely in the company of other delusional Yankee fans. Most Yankee gibberish is just from spoiled fans who are perhaps the least objective group of fans outside Lexington, KY. The umps are cheating against the Yankees and for the Red Sox? Perhaps the most idiotic yet.

Come on Gales, I detest the Red Sox more than any team on earth but this conspiracy theory is ridiculous.

was that not a blown call on gardener last night when he got picked off , everyone in the park could see he was afe , everyone that is besides the umpire .....yes they won , but , still another blown call

Please don't tell me that you are going to do recaps of blown calls in MLB on a daily basis. I'm not sure if I can take it.