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Mortimer 03-17-2008 10:01 AM

Reading posts by the vaporized is.....challenging.






:confused:

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
DO NOT TRY TO TWIST THINGS......MAINCOURSE!






Able bodied minds can see how you tried to WITNESS things in a parallel universe!




0-7 was a sandbagged WITNESS statement....burying the rest of he story.










You have been VAPORIZED!!!








AGAIN!

Yes, thank you for enlightening me and bearing me out to be a false witness. Z, Pavlovic, Gibson, Hughes, Varejao are all more crucial aspects to the Cavaliers winning than LeBron. And all the facts that exist and stats simply bear that out without any question. I hid all your facts that you brought out becuase I am a witless witness. I only wish they would have traded the clanger at the deadline.

Mortimer 03-17-2008 10:03 AM

Whining by the vaporized is particularly nauseating.











To the vomitorium with me!

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 10:04 AM

We only need DaHoss to come on and bear witness to this vaporization and make it legal.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 10:04 AM

Or is it coach Pants that makes vaproizations legal? I get confused on that.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Whining by the vaporized is particularly nauseating.











To the vomitorium with me!

I am not whining. Acknowledging yet another vaprozation of me is not whining it is bearing witness to being stalked by a predator.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 10:09 AM

Ahhh...silenced...and my vaporization of the moron is complete.

Mortimer 03-17-2008 10:12 AM

The vaporized often speak in tongues like the above.







Automatic writing usually follows.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 10:17 AM

You'll recover from this vaporization...you usually do. heuhhh..iidhyyl.....gjjhiiiiss.....uuiulalkyuasdi. ....jhhgoiahhh.....eeueruhahosdih....anagnoihasido hgoimno....

tongues....

Mortimer 03-17-2008 10:24 AM

:rolleyes:

Mortimer 03-17-2008 10:34 AM

:) :) :) :)

Coach Pants 03-17-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

;)

Mortimer 03-17-2008 10:45 AM

:D

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Seems like a vaporization to me.

:)













Fine work as always Avery.

aww, crap. will I never get credit from anyone here???

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
;)

I have looked better.

Mortimer 03-17-2008 11:29 AM

Not until you remove the mvp colored glasses.






Step into reality with the few of us here.

You'll like it!

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Not until you remove the mvp colored glasses.






Step into reality with the few of us here.

You'll like it!


Fine...give McGrady MVP...maybe it gets him out of the 1st round. Or Garnett...maybe it gets HIM to the finals finally. (or Andre Miller?? remember him??) (LeBron has never been MVP anyway...doesn't need it.)

Mortimer 03-17-2008 11:39 AM

Doesn't deserve it.


DOES need it.....DOES.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Doesn't deserve it.


DOES need it.....DOES.

So are you saying if he wins an MVP he'll stop focusing on triple doubles??

(...also a bit humorous you focused on his 10 for 16 clanging last night , but conveniently ignored another of your favorites...ONE turnover! That is what you tend to do in these LeBron threads you start...focus on the bad, and I will in turn focus on other things to balance your all bad half empty approach to him. If that makes me a witless witness so be it, but there are two sides to every story in most cases. In an 82 game schedule even Tim Duncan has some bad games...even all the MVP candidates do. If there are a bunch of MVP candidates who never have a bad game ever...fine, they deserve the award more than LeBron who does have bad games at times. So that is your right to focus on his miserable games to the nth degree like the effort in Washington the other night. They tend to get balanced out however. I still think his really good games far outweigh the efforts like the other night in Washington. )

Mortimer 03-17-2008 12:41 PM

Oh no.....no-no-no-no-no.


YOU did that...YOU have been inking about THE FROZEN ONE and how he does no wrong and how weak the team is behind him etc.,etc.,etc.

It wasn't until I shed a little fact on the deal that you backpedaled.


So that's it...rave on,but the work is here for all to see.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
Oh no.....no-no-no-no-no.


YOU did that...YOU have been inking about THE FROZEN ONE and how he does no wrong and how weak the team is behind him etc.,etc.,etc.

It wasn't until I shed a little fact on the deal that you backpedaled.


So that's it...rave on,but the work is here for all to see.

So I was the one who started this thread?? I think the first poster of this thread was not me. YOu have your own opinion of James and I defended him to you as I always do. Yes, I have stated the team behind him is not strong. "Average" is the term I used I think. Perhaps I'm wrong on that. I have also always stated the team is much better when those parts are healthy and playing...even Hughes whom I have defended on here despite most Cav fans not agreeing with me. I'm sorry I just think James is the main reason the team is relevant...not the remainder of the team. I will always think that. I am quite certain I never said they were a better team with Z not playing or with Varejao not playing, or with Pavlovic not playing, or with Gibson not playing. I never uttered those words one single time.

Yes, it is here for all to see. I know what I've said. I think he's the best player in the league, I think he's the MVP. Perhaps I'm wrong about that. IF you consider it a vaporization, that is absolutely fine. I have not really been refuted on any points and the fact you have to bring out as your main point of argument that they are 1-0 in their last one game WITH Z, I think you just may be losing this one!!

Mortimer 03-17-2008 12:57 PM

^^^









0-7 withut James.



Oh really?



Really.



It seems to me without Andy as well.




Oh...right.



And Mr. Pavilic was still trying to zero in on the side of a barn.





Oh....right.






So James out along with 2...not 1----2.....key components ....is that right?







Uh...yes.








So much for reliable "witnesses."






























By the way......I was talking about all threads on this issue...not just this one.



Faulty testimony on your part...as per usual.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
^^^









0-7 withut James.



Oh really?



Really.



It seems to me without Andy as well.




Oh...right.



And Mr. Pavilic was still trying to zero in on the side of a barn.





Oh....right.






So James out along with 2...not 1----2.....key components ....is that right?







Uh...yes.








So much for reliable "witnesses."






























By the way......I was talking about all threads on this issue...not just this one.



Faulty testimony on your part...as per usual.

Were they without Varejao and without James for an extended period in February?? They were 8-4...again you refused to recognize this issue and statement and fact. But again, that sample doesn't fit your narrow brain. So you ignore it time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again. I brought it up right away and you ignore it...I ackowledge all the correct facts you brought out. That is the difference between me and you. I am smart and you aren't.

You can't even acknlwledge relevant statements I make...you will not acknlowedge their record without Varejao and with LeBron as 8-4...it doesn't fit your "yeah, but they were 0-7 without LeBron AND Varejao, becuase there is actually a sample with LeBron without V...a lot of them. Actually it is 17-10...they were 9-6 without V and with LeBron in November and December...then 8-4 in Feb without him.

Failure to launch. I provide the facts and you will not accept them.

You can ignore every fact you wish and throw them under the bus...it is simply how you roll. I don't care. they have huge samples of playing with LeBron and without Pavlovic/Varejao/Gibson/Z. For you to base everything that the 0-7 was without LeBron but also without V is beyond the realm of stupidity in debating.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:10 PM

Do you really want to take this to page 11?? I am not sure what your point to all this is??

Mortimer 03-17-2008 01:11 PM

^^^ Really reaching now....apparently out of ammo about 12 posts ago.






Wait until he sees what I throw up next about THE FROZEN ONE... alittle more insight .


Yes......this same THE BLING who dumped 4 in a row to SA when it REALLY counted.











Mr. "Clutch."


:rolleyes:

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:15 PM

And that 8-4 stretch without Varejao was without Varejao AND Pavlovic and with James...so for you to go into the 0-7 was without Varejao AND Pavlovic when Pavlovic was actually playing is about 22 IQ level stuff. You are the dumbest human being on the planet.

They have a sample of going 8-4 with James and without both V and Pavlovic yet you somehow think the 0-7 without James was misleading. You are the dumbest human being on the planet.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
^^^ Really reaching now....apparently out of ammo about 12 posts ago.






Wait until he sees what I throw up next about THE FROZEN ONE... alittle more insight .


Yes......this same THE BLING who dumped 4 in a row to SA when it REALLY counted.











Mr. "Clutch."


:rolleyes:


Acknowledge their real record as playing without Varejao and Pavlovic at the same time with LeBron on the floor as 8-4. C'mon Avery...it's not hard. Acknowledge that fact as your downfall here. You can't even recognize it. YOu are simply that dumb!! :D

Mortimer 03-17-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
And that 8-4 stretch without Varejao was without Varejao AND Pavlovic and with James...so for you to go into the 0-7 was without Varejao AND Pavlovic when Pavlovic was actually playing is about 22 IQ level stuff. You are the dumbest human being on the planet.

They have a sample of going 8-4 with James and without both V and Pavlovic yet you somehow think the 0-7 without James was misleading. You are the dumbest human being on the planet.

:rolleyes:




As you have already pointed out...it would have been better to play the great Donnyell than Sasha at that time.









Let me know when James can nail a sizzling 80% of his free throws and a drop dead 38% on his 3's.



And play a little defense instead of that 43 man squamish stuff.




Ya might add playing more point and more decoy instead of ball hog at any cost.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:21 PM

Quiz Avery...what was the Cavs record without Varejao and Pavlovic at the same time with LeBron playing??

What was the Cavs record without LeBron playing??

It's quite easy. I have stated it many times here on this page. Can you do it?? Can you answer this quiz?? I play your quiz games...but you can't play can you!!

That is the difference between me and you. I am smart and you are dumb.

You are beyond dumb at this point.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
:rolleyes:




As you have already pointed out...it would have been better to play the great Donnyell than Sasha at that time.









Let me know when James can nail a sizzling 80% of his free throws and a drop dead 38% on his 3's.



And play a little defense instead of that 43 man squamish stuff.




Ya might add playing more point and more decoy instead of ball hog at any cost.

Ok...when you let me know you're not a moron!! Cant' see that as ever happening however.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:25 PM

I'm actually debating with the dumbest person on the planet. I guess I trump him on the dumbness category. I'm vaporized again!!! HOO_RAHHH

Mortimer 03-17-2008 01:27 PM

I give up with this azzhole already.




Do me a favor and go fucl< the guy then.













OK?

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
I give up with this azzhole already.




Do me a favor and go fucl< the guy then.













OK?

What was their record without both Varejao and Pavlovic with LeBron playing??

Simply can't do it can you!!!!!:D :D :D :D You can't get your little pea brain to state it can you??? It isn't hard.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:32 PM

Vapor trails.

Mortimer 03-17-2008 01:36 PM

You have really pissed me off ,sir, with your fractured fairy tales.





If this guy played the game Majic Johnson did the Cavs would be a whole lot better...on this very team.THEN 4TH Q play would be TEAM play and not the LeBron James bullsh!it show. THEN players would get use to playing like a team and other guys could contribute heavily and take and make game winning shots.


Until the TEAM takes the game back from the KING---this is what you will continue to get....scoring and triple double leader with no titles.


It don't git much fucl<in' simpler than that.




22 points a game.......14 assists a game and 5-6 rebounds a game and the Cavs beome an elite team.....becuase HE finally chose to play a TEAM and not a ME game.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:39 PM

More fairy tales...what is the Cavs record playing without both V and Pavlovic and with LeBron on the floor since that was the main point of your debate here??

What is their record under those circumstances??

What is their record without LeBron??

Whether there is validity to your 14 assist per game point would make them the best team in the world is for another time. I simply want you to answer me these two questions. Can you do it??

Mortimer 03-17-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseofcourse
More fairy tales...what is the Cavs record playing without both V and Pavlovic and with LeBron on the floor since that was the main point of your debate here??

What is their record under those circumstances??

What is their record without LeBron??

Whether there is validity to your 14 assist per game point would make them the best team in the world is for another time. I simply want you to answer me these two questions. Can you do it??


You ran from 0-7!!


I never mentioned it...you did!



And you lied!


Now you run to this mess!....Like ALL WITNESSES do!









Let history tell. If James continues to be selfish...the Cavs will continue to underacheive. You can't have a hotdog shooting 25-30 times a game while the 7-3 center shoots 7-8....for one example.



Let's hear you answer how many nba titles they've won WITH him?

And that answer ain't about to change this year---either.


Booby Knight would throw you IN the chair across the floor.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman
You ran from 0-7!!


I never mentioned it...you did!



And you lied!


Now you run to this mess!....Like ALL WITNESSES do!









Let history tell. If James continues to be selfish...the Cavs will continue to underacheive. You can't have a hotdog shooting 25-30 times a game while the 7-3 center shoots 7-8....for one example.



Let's hear you answer how many nba titles they've won WITH him?

And that answer ain't about to change this year---either.


Booby Knight would throw you IN the chair across the floor.

What is their record without Varejao and Pavlovic with LEBron on the floor??

STate it dumb man. STate it dimwit...State it dim bulb. state it smartman...you really can't do it can you??

(where did I lie??)

By the way Ilgauskas is shooting 47.5 percent not even up to the clangers standards. He is not an 86 percent field goal shooter.

horseofcourse 03-17-2008 01:52 PM

THe hot dog is shooting 22 times per game...not 25-30. But what's 5 shots per game amongst friends!!!


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