Yeah, this is really silly. The trips were discussed here very shortly after the Keeneland race, which I think you need to watch again, and I picked Street Sense publically and bet him and made a bit of money.

Sadly, I didn't hit the exacta, as while I felt Street Sense was close to ten lengths better than Circular Quay, I incorrectly ( and unfortunately ) thought others were less bad.

I gathered as much, unfortunately I didn't join here until after the BC. I have no doubt about BTW's or anyone else's talent on this board when it comest to handicapping. This is a smart bunch.

NT

didnt mean to come across as all knowing (Everyone on DT knows I aint), but just wasnt sure if you knew BTW's pick prior to the BC Juvy.

I could single handidly be the most aggresive, confrontational poster you know...:D

something like that...just looking for a day off between now and then. Jonesing for an "all dayer" at the OTB....:o

dont make me wrap a nine iron over your wig....damit c q is the best horse sence HELENS DREAM............OR ,MYSTICAL FASTNESS

I'm not holding the race against CQ at all.
After getting completely jammed at the rail, stopping when the jockey flew off the horse like a ragdoll (still can't believe he rode and won the next race), veered all the way outside and finished full of run tells me that he's more than just a closing sprinter. I'm not ready to proclaim him the Derby winner, but I'm not ready to toss him, either.
I was just peeved because I had CQ keyed with the 8-10-12, but didn't bet it without him involved. That was an extremely nice trifecta payout all things considered.
Anyone know where they're going to point CQ to next?

Did he ever make it out of the gate?

Hopefully somewhere that a loose buffalo runs across the track in front of him to give him another excuse and give all of us good odds on him for races to come.

Yeah, I know, I saw the race and was just commenting on the bad start. No clue who bet that much early on him but it was a bad day for me and my picks being bombarded by early money and then tanking (Storm Treasure/High Heels) so I'm starting to think that early money and smart money have nothing in common.

Circular Quay was cruising in behind leaders and looked as if he would have won easy, until the horse in front of him clipped heels and went down causing Quay to swerve,he is definitly a horse to watch for the derby.

Steve watch the race again if the horse in front of Quay had not have gone down he would have made the race very interesting.On the show(ATRAB) the other day one of your guest made a statement about Con Collins being the daddy of all Irish trainers,definitly a great trainer,I have one name who is daddy of them all, not only in Ireland but possible world wide Vincent O'Brien.

I don't think CQ's backers should be jumping off the bandwagon based on the final results of the Risen Star. This could be a blessing in disguise for his future pool backers.

17-1 and probably going up after finishing off the board. There's a lot of bandwagon chasers in the future pool.

Heading into the future pool I liked Street Sense and Ravel the most, but their odds are going to make them unplayable for me in this pool. (add in the fact that I'm moving half a continent away from the track I'd have to place the future wager at and I'm sitting this future pool out)

NoBiz is a tossout for me as the likely favored singular betting interest. Too many supporters at this point, and to me he looks like a horse I'd love on an off track (Go for Gin and Halo in his pedigree), but probably try to beat as the favorite any other day.

Risen Star winner Notional looks like a steal at 37-1. There will be some late money on him I'm sure, but again the breeding doesn't insprire me for a Derby winner. He was my pick for the Risen Star, but he doesn't fit my Derby profile.