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Dahoss 06-17-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1139353)
I think this is a great addition!!

To potentially win?

moses 06-17-2020 11:24 AM

Anyone have any thoughts on whether the race being one turn helps or hurts Tiz the Law? Obviously he is just fine around one turn...but the racing being one turn possibly benefits other horses more than it benefits him? I知 not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

Alabama Stakes 06-17-2020 11:58 AM

I値l take 6-1 on TAP IT TO WIN for 200, Alex

Dahoss 06-17-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139358)
I値l take 6-1 on TAP IT TO WIN for 200, Alex

No chance now

knickslions2 06-17-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1139356)
To potentially win?

Well let痴 see about that but the odds are tasty. I need to look at pps once they come out. It seems to be a race with limited pace based upon history of some of these. This race could fit this horse style and has a win over the track although much shorter. Could take them a long way.

Alabama Stakes 06-17-2020 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1139359)
No chance now

So you’re saying no way I’ll get 6-1, since I like him, because everyone will bet on him dropping the odds way down......right ?

Dahoss 06-17-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139362)
So you池e saying no way I値l get 6-1, since I like him, because everyone will bet on him dropping the odds way down......right ?

I知 saying you have the worst opinion on the internet. The only reason you like this horse is because he demolished the horse you gushed about for days.

I知 just glad you gave him out. I liked him. He has no chance now. Saved me money.

Dahoss 06-17-2020 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1139360)
Well let痴 see about that but the odds are tasty. I need to look at pps once they come out. It seems to be a race with limited pace based upon history of some of these. This race could fit this horse style and has a win over the track although much shorter. Could take them a long way.

You池e right about the lack of pace, although you壇 have to think Tap It To Win is at least as fast and drawing the rail kind of forces his hand. He will be a price.

Dahoss 06-17-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1139357)
Anyone have any thoughts on whether the race being one turn helps or hurts Tiz the Law? Obviously he is just fine around one turn...but the racing being one turn possibly benefits other horses more than it benefits him? I知 not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

I don稚 think it matters at all. There is a such a long backstretch run, the only horse who might be impacted at all is Tap It to Win, because of where he drew.

Alabama Stakes 06-17-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1139365)
I知 saying you have the worst opinion on the internet. The only reason you like this horse is because he demolished the horse you gushed about for days.

I知 just glad you gave him out. I liked him. He has no chance now. Saved me money.

I here I am thinking it was only the worst opinion on this board, not the whole internet.
After your next 3 hundred dollar winners out here, You will be tied with me . You are 0 for 2020 here right ?

Dahoss 06-17-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1139368)
I here I am thinking it was only the worst opinion on this board, not the whole internet.
After your next 3 hundred dollar winners out here, You will be tied with me . You are 0 for 2020 here right ?

I didn稚 realize I was competing for winners on the board with you. My bad. I was too busy actually betting real money.

You池e the best at posting fake bets on here. Happy?

knickslions2 06-17-2020 05:28 PM

After looking at this I知 against Tap it to Win. Think horse takes step back here.

herkhorse 06-23-2020 06:23 AM

Is Silver Prospector off the Derby Trail? I thought he had 21 points.

Kasept 06-23-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 1139707)
Is Silver Prospector off the Derby Trail? I thought he had 21 points.

There's a line through him on the Churchill Media master list.

Kasept 06-24-2020 07:19 AM

Gouverneur Morris has colitis that will sideline him for a couple of months.

Kasept 07-05-2020 06:05 AM

Sept 5 (CD): Kentucky Derby (10f)

1 Tiz the Law (Barclay Tagg) 272
2 Honor A.P. (John Shirreffs) 120
3 Authentic (Bob Baffert) 100
4 King Guillermo (Juan Carlos Avila) 90
5 Ete Indien (Patrick Biancone) 74
6 Modernist (Bill Mott) 70
7 Ny Traffic (Saffie Joseph Jr.) 50
8 Dr Post (Todd Pletcher) 60
9 Basin (Steve Asmussen) 50
10 Mischevious Alex (John Servis) 50
11 Shivaree (Ralph Nicks) 40
12 Max Player (Linda Rice) 40
13 Storm the Court (Peter Eurton) 32
14 Enforceable (Mark Casse) 33
15 Thousand Words (Bob Baffert) 33
16 Sole Volante (Patrick Biancone) 30
17 Major Fed (Greg Foley) 30
18 Finnick the Fierce (Rey Hernandez) 25
19 Pneumatic (Steve Asmussen) 25
20 JPN RTTD: Cafe Pharoah (Noriyuki Nori)
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21 Anneau d'Or (Blaine Wright) 22
-- Dean Martini (Tom Amoss) 20
22 Uncle Chuck (Bob Baffert) 20
23 Excession (Steve Asmussen) 20
24 Candy Tycoon (Todd Pletcher) 20
25 Farmington Road (Todd Pletcher) 15
26 Attachment Rate (Dale Romans) 15

Kasept 07-08-2020 04:16 PM

BLUE GRASS

1- Shivaree
2- Finnick the Fierce
3- Art Collector
4- Mr. Big News
5- Man in the Can
6- Hard Lighting
7- Swiss Skydiver
8- Basin
9- Attachment Rate
10- Rushie
11- Hunt the Front
12- Enforceable
13- Tiesto

Alabama Stakes 07-08-2020 08:11 PM

Filly gets to strut her stuff

moses 07-20-2020 08:04 AM

Looking through the final odds for the Oaks and is it just me or a little crazy that Speech was 10/1 and Swiss Skydiver 9/2 while Gamine was 2/1? I know Gamine ran an incredible race last time out but it was around one turn...and I think those other two are fairly close to her going around two turns.

I知 sure I値l be wrong and she値l win the Kentucky Oaks by 10 lengths but I hope they stay at 2 and 5 times the odds as Gamine because they値l be pretty solid value.

Dunbar 07-20-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1141171)
Looking through the final odds for the Oaks and is it just me or a little crazy that Speech was 10/1 and Swiss Skydiver 9/2 while Gamine was 2/1? I know Gamine ran an incredible race last time out but it was around one turn...and I think those other two are fairly close to her going around two turns.

I知 sure I値l be wrong and she値l win the Kentucky Oaks by 10 lengths but I hope they stay at 2 and 5 times the odds as Gamine because they値l be pretty solid value.

I'm pretty sure the 2nd half of your last sentence contradicts the first half! :)

What struck me about this round of Future Wagers is how small the pools were. For the Oaks, just $35K in the win pool and $20K in the exacta pool! For the Derby, just $126K in the win pool and $65K in the exacta pool. Compare that to Derby Pool 2 which had $440K in the win pool and $151K in the exacta pool.

I would've thought that with so little sports to bet on, maybe the future wager would have attracted some attention. Nope.


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