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OldDog 06-28-2016 08:50 AM

Hooray, cronyism!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...to-tehran.html

OldDog 08-03-2016 06:42 AM

Obama's ransom payment to Iran:

The U.S. and Iran entered into secret negotiations to secure the release of Americans imprisoned in Iran in November 2014. . .The discussions. . .initially focused solely on a formula whereby Iran would swap the Americans detained in Tehran for Iranian nationals held in U.S. jails. . . .

But around Christmas, the discussions dovetailed with. . .the old arms deal. The Iranians were demanding the return of $400 million [and] also wanted billions of dollars as interest accrued since then. . . .

A report by an Iranian news site close to the Revolutionary Guard, the Tasnim agency, said the cash arrived in Tehran’s Mehrabad airport on the same day the [hostages] departed. Revolutionary Guard commanders boasted at the time that the Americans had succumbed to Iranian pressure. “Taking this much money back was in return for the release of the American spies,” said Gen. Mohammad Reza Naghdi, commander of the Guard’s Basij militia, on state media.

Since the cash shipment. . .the Revolutionary Guard has arrested two more Iranian-Americans. Tehran has also detained dual-nationals from France, Canada and the U.K. in recent months. . . .

Friends and family of [one of the hostages] believe the Iranians are seeking to increase their leverage to force another prisoner exchange or cash payment in the final six months of the Obama administration. . .Iranian officials have demanded in recent weeks the U.S. return $2 billion in Iranian funds that were frozen in New York in 2009. The Supreme Court recently ruled that the money should be given to victims of Iranian-sponsored terror attacks.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent...eed-1470181874

Hooray for smart diplomacy!

Pants II 08-03-2016 08:53 AM

Hooray for Dhimmicrat Obama!

geeker2 08-03-2016 11:04 AM

We sure could have used that $400 MM to clean up the homeless mess in San Diego...many of then Vets.

OldDog 08-03-2016 11:32 AM




Hey! Khizr Kahn! (Squirrel!)

OldDog 08-03-2016 11:35 AM

THIS IS CNN



8 stories on Trump, but zip on Obama secretly sending Iran $400 million for hostages.

Rudeboyelvis 08-03-2016 11:46 AM

Cue a nonsense post by Danzig about how horrible Trump will be, and why the "money men" make all the rules - completely ignoring the fact that the Donor Class owns the media thus programs her thoughts for her.

This is beyond unconscionable. We have sent Americans into harms way in Syria

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...icans-to-syria

knowing full well we are paying a country 100's of millions of dollars that we know are being funneled to the enemy that our commandos (by way of training opposition forces) are trying to defeat.

And this won't get a whiff of MSM coverage.

Boy, have we come a long way from Iran-Contra...

OldDog 08-03-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1071941)
Cue a nonsense post by Danzig about how horrible Trump will be, and why the "money men" make all the rules - completely ignoring the fact that the Donor Class owns the media thus programs her thoughts for her.

This is beyond unconscionable. We have sent Americans into harms way in Syria

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...icans-to-syria

knowing full well we are paying a country 100's of millions of dollars that we know are being funneled to the enemy that our commandos (by way of training opposition forces) are trying to defeat.

And this won't get a whiff of MSM coverage.

Boy, have we come a long way from Iran-Contra...

So true. We're so far gone, probably too far gone to ever recover, especially if shillery business-as-usual wins in November.

Danzig 08-03-2016 01:12 PM

The money paid was from a case that lasted 36 years and went thru the hague. It was not a ransom payment for a hostage return.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/...m-their-money/

Pants II 08-03-2016 01:21 PM

It's either nationalism now or hyper-nationalism later.

It's really up to the white female vote. Highly factored to how many of them prioritize the right to kill their babies.

Danzig 08-03-2016 01:39 PM

The U.S. State Department announced the government had agreed to pay Iran $1.7 billion to settle a case related to the sale of military equipment prior to the Iranian revolution, according to a statement issued on Sunday.

Iran had set up a $400 million trust fund for such purchases, which was frozen along with diplomatic relations in 1979. In settling the claim, which had been tied up at the Hague Tribunal since 1981, the U.S. is returning the money in the fund along with "a roughly $1.3 billion compromise on the interest," the statement said.

from cnn, back in January.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/17/politi...n-1-7-billion/

but yeah, there was nothing on cnn about it. :rolleyes:

oh, and here's the link to cnn right now, with a story second on the list about this.

http://www.cnn.com/


President Barack Obama approved the $400 million transfer, which was the first payment of a $1.7 billion settlement resolving claims at an international tribunal at The Hague over a failed arms deal under the time of the Shah. The Iranians were seeking more than $10 billion at arbitration.



Because existing US sanctions ban American dollars from being used in a transaction with Iran, officials said the money was procured from central banks in Switzerland and the Netherlands, and an unmarked cargo plane loaded with wooden pallets of Swiss francs, euros and other currencies were flown to Iran.

The payment required hard currency, they said, because Iran could not access the global financial system due to international sanctions it was under at the time. The details of the transaction were first reported by The Wall Street Journal.

"They were totally cut off from global banks and there was no other way to get them the money," one senior official with knowledge of the transaction said.

Rudeboyelvis 08-03-2016 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1071967)
The U.S. State Department announced the government had agreed to pay Iran $1.7 billion to settle a case related to the sale of military equipment prior to the Iranian revolution, according to a statement issued on Sunday.

Iran had set up a $400 million trust fund for such purchases, which was frozen along with diplomatic relations in 1979. In settling the claim, which had been tied up at the Hague Tribunal since 1981, the U.S. is returning the money in the fund along with "a roughly $1.3 billion compromise on the interest," the statement said.

from cnn, back in January.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/17/politi...n-1-7-billion/

but yeah, there was nothing on cnn about it. :rolleyes:

oh, and here's the link to cnn right now, with a story second on the list about this.

http://www.cnn.com/


President Barack Obama approved the $400 million transfer, which was the first payment of a $1.7 billion settlement resolving claims at an international tribunal at The Hague over a failed arms deal under the time of the Shah. The Iranians were seeking more than $10 billion at arbitration.



Because existing US sanctions ban American dollars from being used in a transaction with Iran, officials said the money was procured from central banks in Switzerland and the Netherlands, and an unmarked cargo plane loaded with wooden pallets of Swiss francs, euros and other currencies were flown to Iran.

The payment required hard currency, they said, because Iran could not access the global financial system due to international sanctions it was under at the time. The details of the transaction were first reported by The Wall Street Journal.

"They were totally cut off from global banks and there was no other way to get them the money," one senior official with knowledge of the transaction said.

Maybe the sanctions were in place because they are the largest sponsor/exporter of Islamic terrorism, intend on overtaking Iraq and Saudi Arabia and "blowing Israel off the map" (their words) with the nukes that they agreed not to pursue (though already are ;) ) and fully back the Assad regime in Syria...But I guess "a deal's a deal" :zz:

I don't know what the hell is crazier - this whole nightmare, or actually trying to explain to you how this *answer* you keep parroting is borderline straitjacket material and completely unacceptable.

OldDog 09-07-2016 07:56 AM

US Payment of $1.7 Billion to Iran Made Entirely in Cash

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...-cash-41907666

Quote:

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a decades-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. An initial $400 million of euros, Swiss francs and other foreign currency was delivered on pallets Jan. 17, the same day Tehran agreed to release four American prisoners.

The Obama administration had claimed the events were separate, but recently acknowledged the cash was used as leverage until the Americans were allowed to leave Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s. The administration had previously declined to say if the interest was delivered to Iran in physical cash, as with the principal, or via a more regular banking mechanism.
:zz:

Quote:

Treasury Department spokeswoman Dawn Selak said in a statement the cash payments were necessary because of the "effectiveness of U.S. and international sanctions," which isolated Iran from the international finance system.
Pesky sanctions. Terrorists funded by Iran must be very happy.


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