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ADJMK 05-16-2015 05:42 PM

Would someone explain how Tale of Verve only got a 72 Beyer for his last race which makes him look like he shouldn't even be allowed in the starting gate. His BRIS rating was 95 which is comparable to the Derby Bris rating of AP(100)Dortmund (96)etc. I think Beyer needs to take a closer look at that rating.

knickslions2 05-16-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 1027394)
Would someone explain how Tale of Verve only got a 72 Beyer for his last race which makes him look like he shouldn't even be allowed in the starting gate. His BRIS rating was 95 which is comparable to the Derby Bris rating of AP(100)Dortmund (96)etc. I think Beyer needs to take a closer look at that rating.

Probably means rest of horse blow. Who is beating ap next race?

pointman 05-16-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1027395)
Probably means rest of horse blow. Who is beating ap next race?

We have seen this before. AP was clearly most likely to win the Preakness, the Belmont is a very different animal.

knickslions2 05-16-2015 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 1027396)
We have seen this before. AP was clearly most likely to win the Preakness, the Belmont is a very different animal.

Who is going to beat him? Dort and firing line won't run. Stanford can't last ..don't know who will be him. It's different this year

pointman 05-16-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1027400)
Who is going to beat him? Dort and firing line won't run. Stanford can't last ..don't know who will be him. It's different this year

Who was saying that Tonalist would beat CC after the Preakness last year? Who thought Birdstone would beat Smarty after the Preakness?

We hear the same thing after each duel classic winner.

Port Conway Lane 05-16-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ADJMK (Post 1027394)
Would someone explain how Tale of Verve only got a 72 Beyer for his last race which makes him look like he shouldn't even be allowed in the starting gate. His BRIS rating was 95 which is comparable to the Derby Bris rating of AP(100)Dortmund (96)etc. I think Beyer needs to take a closer look at that rating.

Monday morning quarterbacking. Look at the charts for Keenland that day. The only route race on the dirt was Verves race. It took over 2:00 to run 1 3/16 miles against maidens. I would question the bris rating. This was the suck-up of suck-ups. Anyway, if Bris rated him so well, I would have bet the 60-1 exacta.

knickslions2 05-16-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 1027402)
Who was saying that Tonalist would beat CC after the Preakness last year? Who thought Birdstone would beat Smarty after the Preakness?

We hear the same thing after each duel classic winner.

Think it's different this year my friemd

pointman 05-16-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1027410)
Think it's different this year my friemd

I honestly hope you are right, Tom, as I will be there in three weeks. Having said that, my money will be against it.

knickslions2 05-16-2015 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 1027411)
I honestly hope you are right, Tom, as I will be there in three weeks. Having said that, my money will be against it.

I want to beat him but there will be no speed in belmont. Good horses playing for second


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