Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881417)

34K down payment on a hotel or service station and showing 8 bucks an hour job and the BANKS will be lining up to loan you money...

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881425)

What I don't get is how you are supposed to live on $8 an hour while you are saving all that overtime money up.

You need at least $15 an hour in the US to have a decent life.

Hello? America? Other countries do quality-of-life better, and we can get back to that, too!

Because gawd knows, we lost the realistic American Dream possibility (where one dad worked and that was enough to afford a good life, while mom stayed home in the house with the kids, and everyone had food, savings, retirement and vacations) back in the late 1970's.

Dell's view of saying, "you can still have part of that, if you work 80-100 hours a week" is a cruel, absurd, destructive, terrible way to live. Better we work towards making quality of life good for all citizens in America, and return it to being the land of opportunity and good lives.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881430)

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881430)

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881434)

The ones that do not buy into "austerity". See double-dip recession, England.

The world economy was tanked by the possessors of most of the money being reckless. That's pretty simply and apparent, no? LIBOR?

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 881428)

yeah, and there are also plenty of places paying out tons of overtime as well. it's so simple! :rolleyes: and since it's so easy to get by on $320 a week before taxes, surely you could save up every bit of that overtime.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881438)

Specific countries, please with facts and figures about how well they are doing financially.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881430)

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881439)

Yea all of those Patels and Singhs who started in dives and gas stations getting robbed weekly and now own branded hotels and petroleum centers are just front men for guys like Romney. :zz:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 881444)

lol
your leaps of imagination are rather amusing. how do you do it? you take a comment and just run with it in your own direction. exactly how do you infer any of that from what i wrote?

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881452)

You said it was impossible to live on minimum wage and save. If you go back a page you'll find a story of a runaway who began with $500 f'n dollars and now owns the old Eisenhower Airforce Base in Key West just to name one property. It is possible to save.

It might not be possible with a car, cable, a cell phone, designer shoes, a big screen TV, even healthcare etc but it's possible.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881441)

Read a newspaper.

What specifically are you looking for? You denying the fact that the available money in the (free) world has never been more stratified to the possession of an upper class of elite that run our governments and banks, set their own interest rates and own the laws? You think that is not true?

Look at the larger picture - you're down in the weeds of "which economies are specifically doing well and by how many dollars" That wasn't my point.

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 881444)

lol
your leaps of imagination are rather amusing. how do you do it? you take a comment and just run with it in your own direction. exactly how do you infer any of that from what i wrote?

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881457)

You said other countries have better ways of life for their citizens, I would like to know if any of those countries with all the happy people that do not have to work very hard are doing well financially. I choose not to read a newspaper to prove your point, I would like you to prove your point.
If we need to sacrifice what remains of this once great country for everyone to be happy I would like to see the future represented in one of the many countries you are suggesting we emulate.
Please?

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 881458)

If you put a :zz: in your post it proves you are right and everyone else is a boob no matter how inconceivable (100+ people with less than $30 bucks to making over a million a year). Didn't you know that?

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881462)

Our forefathers WALKED west thousands of miles for opportunity and jobs yet some people today don't want a job if it requires being on your feet too long or God forbid taking more than one bus. Too easy to demand someone else pay for it.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881459)

I already provided two links for you to review, regarding what I was talking about, and the other countries I am referencing.

YOU changed the subject completely to a new topic, "which of these countries are currently operating on a stable economy", which is not anything I was discussing.