Does Riot have a daughter?

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sandra-flu...alth-insurance

He left Bain early in 1999.. There are more important things to worry about than Rush's comments. Good job Mitt!

Hey OM how much did you pay to fill up your gas tank?

$4.69/gal here

Just think how many contraceptives Fluke's Friends could buy with gas in the $2/gal range ;)

justsayin

it is, has been since day one.
again, if you open the door to religious reasons to opt out of certain coverages, the amount of items being excluded would rise tremendously. or do you keep ignoring that.
also, again, the church already has yielded the point in many states with this same argument.
men get sex pills paid for, women don't. are their medical reasons for viagra other than sex? not that i know of. the pill? yes, many.
yet insurers cover tubals and vasectomies. so, permanent sterility? ok... flexible sterility? tough luck.
you guys keep saying the issue is personal responsibility, but its not. the issue is there is a double standard.

Around $3.80 down here. Not sure how this fits into this thread, though.
Is Mitt running on the $2/gal. gas platform?


Ocala Mike

This is not about opting out for cost savings, punishment, bias towards women etc. This is about Church doctrine.

You keep thinking this will be abused by opting out of say arthritis coverage etc. It isn't and until we cross that road its reality is only in people's minds.

Again, you keep ignoring that if Obama is right, a policy for a woman with no contraceptive coverage should be MORE EXPENSIVE than coverage with contraception. So you can eliminate cost as a motive.

OK, you're a horseplayer, right? What odds will you give me on the "virgin" bet?

you're probably a really nice guy but might suffer from same tone deafness rush does.

it's creepy that you'd even ask.

Who makes final determination of virginity?....I'd appoint my Dr Hassan bin Lade....:D

she's 30's old. Odds are she is not a virgin. But the point is, you said "It is Ms Fluke trying to force her will upon the rest of us by demanding a subsidy to her lifestyle" when if you actually read this Fluke testimony she never even talked about herself or her lifestyle. She was talking about others and specifically women who had conditions (cysts) that need to be controlled through birth control pills.

So I wanted to make sure your incorrect statement was corrected. Certainly, nobody outside of Fluke and her friends / lovers know if she is a "slut" "prostitute" or a virgin or living in a monogomous relationship.

the church should have Nothing to do with insurance coverage. But than again, in my opinion, the government should also have nothing to do with insurance coverage.

It's pretty ridiculous if a company does not cover medicine that prevents ovarian cysts. But on the other side of it.. healthy women who want to avoid pregnancy should be able to afford the $10 to $30 dollars per month it costs to get bitch control pills. If your current insurance doesn't cover it.. either switch plans or pay for it out of your pocket. what i DO NOT want, is government in the health care business.

I have sympathy for the women who need the pills for health reasons. I don't have sympathy for the other group for a reason. I take a medication that literally keeps me alive. I'd dehydrate and die of kidney failure in a matter of weeks without this medication. I work and have insurance through my company. But, according to United Healthcare (they suck, btw), this medication I take is not considered preventative. Eventhough it prevents my death. So I pay full price for this medication every month, eventhough I'm still paying my insurance premiums which includes a ridiculous $2,400 deductable anyway.

Oh yeah.. before Obamacare completely changed the insurance policies that we are offered to pay for.. I simply paid a $10 deductable for this medication every month. Now it costs 5 times that.

I believe this is considered a "freudian slip" meant birth control pills!

bitch control pills are already covered. They are called prozac and valium.

Seems to me religious freedom means the INDIVIDUAL choosing not to use contraception, not the boss dictating whether they should. Health care coverage is not a gift; it's part of an employee's compensation. By restricting health care coverage to not include contraception, the Catholic Church is demanding the right to pay their employees less.

If the Catholic Church feels so strongly about not providing health plans that include contraception coverage, they can just not offer health care plans as part of their compensation package. And then see what caliber of people apply to work for them.

The Catholic Church is free not to offer contraception, the insurance company will provide it. There is zero "forcing" of churches to do anything against their religious beliefs. They are ignoring that announcement in an effort to keep rousing up the religious GOP base politically.

Nearly all religious-affiliated hospitals already offer insurance - and have for decades - that routinely offers birth control.

This - like "Obama is responsible for high gasoline prices!" - is an entirely manufactured political issue.

The current polling shows only 14% of Latinos now support any Republican candidate, and 57% of all women are offended by the GOP (that obviously includes plenty of GOP women). The GOP has ignored the advice they've received over the past 20 years about changing with the country. Those are demographic numbers that cannot be overcome. We are watching the destruction of the current incarnation of the Republican Party. If the brahmins in the party don't take over control, this party is done for years.

it is very much about those things. there is a double standard. the cost is higher for an ed drug than bc, yet ed is covered. as for the church argument...why do you continue to ignore the facts? those include that many states already have bc mandates in place which include churches- that the church has accepted. also, as i said before, if you start excluding based on religion you open up many folks to losing coverages for other services. ive made that point several times, yet you and others choose to ignore that. you said if viagra was paid for then nevermind..it is paid for yet you're still arguing.
of course arthritis wouldnt come up for religious reasons. what about treatment for ectopic pregnancy? blood transfusions? there are religions against that. organ donation? some are against that. you want your pastor, or your employer to decide your treatments?

Limbaugh imploding - he's reduced to filling ad time with PSA's
 

From Media Matters:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201203070008

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freedom of religion mean right to worship how, where, when you choose. not whether your employees have to believe as you do. or that you can make others follow your beliefs in some form or fashion.

:tro: for what you wrote and :tro: for you and your struggle

Limbaugh in trouble - even the PSA's like the American Heart Association are refusing to be broadcast on his program.

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Freedom from religion is a constitutional right, too.

Not that that will stop Rick Santorum.