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Riot 11-17-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 818327)
Home perhaps?

Do you have the livestream on?

Bigsmc 11-17-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 818269)
Never realized it is the rich and powerful that are so into who killed Casey Anthony, who got kicked off Dancing with the Stars and the dead Michael Jackson's physician.


Casey Anthony is alive and well. She killed her daughter Caylee Anthony.

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818330)
Do you have the livestream on?

TVG

Riot 11-17-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 818339)
TVG

Don't you have a laptop?

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818342)
Don't you have a laptop?

TVG is bad enough

Riot 11-17-2011 04:33 PM

They used sound weapons on the protesters this morning:

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7:29 AM PT: A blogger I trust is tweeting that LRAD is on site, and may be deployed against protesters.

7:32 AM PT: CNBC reports that journalists are being kicked out. At least one journalist arrested. NYPD Kettling occupiers on pine between broadway and nassau.

7:35 AM PT: Kettled protesters at Nassau and Pine are singing the national anthem.

7:36 AM PT: Protesters sing the national anthem at Nassau and Pine. The police respond with LRAD.

7:38 AM PT: Handheld LRAD used on protesters: http://twitpic.com/...

7:54 AM PT: Russia Today is confirming that LRAD was used.

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818350)
They used sound weapons on the protesters this morning:

Did they play Bieber extra loud?

Riot 11-17-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 818355)
Did they play Bieber extra loud?

I laughed.

You realize they tried to deploy it the night the raided the camp, but they faced it the wrong way, and hit their own officers, then couldn't get it turned off? You gotta watch the non-MSM media for the good tidbits :D

Personally, I would destroy the incessantly-beating drums. Violently and with feeling.

AP apparently called Cardus, estimate of 2,000 people in Foley Park: doctors, Verizon workers, unions have joined up with the protesters. NYPD just closed air space to NBC and CBS helicopters who were filming protest.

This could be getting good, because from here they are supposed to march to bridge.

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818350)
They used sound weapons on the protesters this morning:

Russia Today?

The Economist magazine which classified RussiaToday's reporting as "weirdly constructed propaganda" has suggested that the channel has provided a platform to conspiracy theorists. Julia Ioffe claims that Russia Today is a Kremlin propaganda outlet featuring "fringe-dwelling experts" and "was just a way to stick it to the U.S. from behind the façade of legitimate newsgathering."

An article published in The New Republic by James Kirchick characterized the news reportage of Russia Today as, "virulent anti-Americanism, worshipful portrayal of Russian leaders, and comical production values," that "can't help but revive the pettiness that was a distinctive feature of Soviet-era propaganda."[25]

An article by Accuracy in Media criticized RT as a "propaganda network funded by the Moscow regime of Vladimir Putin" and charged that it "regularly features Marxist and radical commentators. The article also cites the description of the network by former KGB officer Konstantin Preobrazhensky as “a part of the Russian industry of misinformation and manipulation” designed to mislead foreign audiences about Russian intentions."Furthermore, Preobrazhensky argues that Russia Today utilizes methods of propaganda that are "managed by Directorate 'A' of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service...with the specialty of Directorate ‘A’ is deceiving world public opinion and manipulating it. It has got a lot of experience over decades of the Cold War."

Riot 11-17-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 818357)
Russia Today?

Yes, "that" Russia Today. Al Jazzera and Russia Today have been faithfully live-streaming the Ustream videos, then CNN a bit and MSNBC some. Faux News reported that the park was littered with needles last night (sheer lie). CNN had their camera trained on an empty Zuccotti park for an hour today, while they marched on NYSE. Duh.

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818356)
I laughed.

You realize they tried to deploy it the night the raided the camp, but they faced it the wrong way, and hit their own officers, then couldn't get it turned off? You gotta watch the non-MSM media for the good tidbits :D

Personally, I would destroy the incessantly-beating drums. Violently and with feeling.

AP apparently called Cardus, estimate of 2,000 people in Foley Park: doctors, Verizon workers, unions have joined up with the protesters. NYPD just closed air space to NBC and CBS helicopters who were filming protest.

This could be getting good, because from here they are supposed to march to bridge.

In a city of 10+ million is a gathering of 2000 people a big deal? Hell the Knicks get more than that and you have to be a 1%'er to afford a ticket.

I'm just amazed that people think this is actually accomplishing something other than costing the city millions, aggravating people who live near the protests and tying up traffic? In the end nothing changes by doing this and interupting city council meetings and blocking bridges.

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818358)
Yes, "that" Russia Today. Al Jazzera and Russia Today have been faithfully live-streaming the Ustream videos, then CNN a bit and MSNBC some. Faux News reported that the park was littered with needles last night (sheer lie). CNN had their camera trained on an empty Zuccotti park for an hour today, while they marched on NYSE. Duh.

How do you know that it was a lie?

Of course you are forgetting that Russia Today and Al Jazzera may have a captive anti-American audience to sell this to. Outside of the potential for some gratitous police violence I dont think most of America over 25 really care that much anymore. Like I said the cause may be just but the methods are becoming less and less justifiable.

Riot 11-17-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 818359)
In a city of 10+ million is a gathering of 2000 people a big deal? Hell the Knicks get more than that and you have to be a 1%'er to afford a ticket.

You just called it, "millions of citizens that live in the city must be continously subjected to marches and actions that negatively affect them and the quality of their life?"

Pick one :D Yeah, you wouldn't think this amount of people walking around is that big a deal. I mean, Thanksgiving Day Parade?

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I'm just amazed that people think this is actually accomplishing something other than costing the city millions, aggravating people who live near the protests and tying up traffic? In the end nothing changes by doing this and interupting city council meetings and blocking bridges.
Three months ago, the news was talking about debt and austerity. Now the news talks about income inequality. It's a start.

Huge, huge amounts of people down there, mounted officers arriving. I'll bet there is no way they let them leave to go towards a bridge. Way too many people.

Cannon Shell 11-17-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 818365)
You just called it, "millions of citizens that live in the city must be continously subjected to marches and actions that negatively affect them and the quality of their life?"

Pick one :D Yeah, you wouldn't think this amount of people walking around is that big a deal. I mean, Thanksgiving Day Parade?



Three months ago, the news was talking about debt and austerity. Now the news talks about income inequality. It's a start.

Huge, huge amounts of people down there, mounted officers arriving. I'll bet there is no way they let them leave to go towards a bridge. Way too many people.

Are you comparing protesters trying to block the Brooklyn Bridge durng rush hour to the Thanksgiving day parade? LOL

Hard to believe that you continously complain about the news outlets then say what the news is talking about is a sign of progress? I mean if they arent covering it how can there be so much progress being made?

Income inequality isn't something that can be protested away. The thing is that most of what these people are protesting cant be changed through protesting. This isnt the civil right movement where things were black and white (pun again).

Riot 11-17-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 818367)
Are you comparing protesters trying to block the Brooklyn Bridge durng rush hour to the Thanksgiving day parade? LOL

:zz: No. You mentioned a couple thousand people shouldn't be hard to cope with. I agreed. The TG parade is massively more amounts of people walking in (from parking to the parade) and out, like the protests are walking in to the park and over to another.

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Hard to believe that you continously complain about the news outlets then say what the news is talking about is a sign of progress? I mean if they arent covering it how can there be so much progress being made?
Yes, it is clear the American news media is barely covering the two months of Occupy, in hundreds of towns in the US, unless there is violence. Yes, Occupy changed the conversation in the one example I gave and said, "it's a start".

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Income inequality isn't something that can be protested away. The thing is that most of what these people are protesting cant be changed through protesting. This isnt the civil right movement where things were black and white (pun again).
The Civil Rights movement didn't ask for specific demands, specific laws - they demanded general ideals of equality, justice under the constitution, etc. Then the politicians created the appropriate laws and political process.

Same thing. The protest is saying that American citizens are fed up with corporate ownership of our government, of plutocracy. Before you change it, you identify it. We happen to have lawmakers that do NOT want to change a thing.

dellinger63 11-17-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 818337)
Casey Anthony is alive and well. She killed her daughter Caylee Anthony.


Thanks! I obviously don't keep up like you do.

Honu 11-17-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 818337)
Casey Anthony is alive and well. She killed her daughter Caylee Anthony.

Proof

dellinger63 11-17-2011 08:16 PM

Guess I'm not a main stream media (rich, powerful) guy or part of the 99%.

And I love my life!!

dellinger63 11-17-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 818404)
Guess I'm not a main stream media (rich, powerful) guy or part of the 99%.

And I love my life!!


and my country!

hi_im_god 11-17-2011 09:18 PM

i have nothing to add.


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