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Sightseek 09-12-2006 12:48 PM

312 - c. Danzig - Sharp Minister sold for 9.2 Million

318 - c. Vindication - Silvery Swan sold for 4.6 Million

Betsy 09-12-2006 12:59 PM

I guess the Mineshaft/Dear Birdie didn't sell well, huh? Disappointing sale for Mineshaft, I think.......but worse for Indy. I don't think he's ever had worse sales results than this one....

Sightseek 09-12-2006 01:09 PM

Mineshaft - Dear Birdie hasn't sold yet.

The Victory Ride colt sold for over a million.


Why does Rick Porter keep spending so much money on Unbridled Song's when he is SO unsuccessful with them? Rockport Harbor was a one race pony.

sumitas 09-12-2006 01:43 PM

Maybe because they look "racy." LOL.

Round Pen 09-12-2006 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
I guess the Mineshaft/Dear Birdie didn't sell well, huh? Disappointing sale for Mineshaft, I think.......but worse for Indy. I don't think he's ever had worse sales results than this one....


your kidding right 1.3 million

Cunningham Racing 09-12-2006 03:16 PM

Nice Kingmambo colt breaks yearling record at $11.7 M....wow...insane!!! :D

Sightseek 09-12-2006 03:34 PM

Check out the body on that Danzig colt on the website! At this rate I can't wait until they get a picture of the Kingmambo up!

Betsy 09-12-2006 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen
your kidding right 1.3 million

No, I wasn't. I obviously posted this before he sold. I got this colt confused with another one........$1.3 is pretty nice.
I also noticed that this was a terrible sale for AP Indy - I've never seen worse. He had one go for over $1 million (the Serena's Song colt), another for about $975, 000.00, but overall.........lots of RNA's and middling prices.

oracle80 09-12-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
No, I wasn't. I obviously posted this before he sold. I got this colt confused with another one........$1.3 is pretty nice.
I also noticed that this was a terrible sale for AP Indy - I've never seen worse. He had one go for over $1 million (the Serena's Song colt), another for about $975, 000.00, but overall.........lots of RNA's and middling prices.

Betsy,
I honestly believe that folks just conceded the first two days to the Maktoums and are looking at books 3 and 4 in hopes of landing one.

paisjpq 09-12-2006 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Betsy,
I honestly believe that folks just conceded the first two days to the Maktoums and are looking at books 3 and 4 in hopes of landing one.

that's an interesting point mike and could explain some rather uninspiring prices on nice horses.

Danzig 09-12-2006 06:09 PM

not so sure that the sheik wants good horses, i think he just wants to beat out coolmore....

why? because he CAN!

sweet on that danzig!!

Betsy 09-12-2006 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Betsy,
I honestly believe that folks just conceded the first two days to the Maktoums and are looking at books 3 and 4 in hopes of landing one.

LOL, that's probably true. I'm not upset, just rather surprised. However, it's not like they sold for $30,000.......someone, somewhere, got a nice Indy yearling for a fraction of what they thought they were going to pay.

Danzig has died, so these are some of his last yearlings - no wonder they sold so well. Can't blame the Sheikhs for wanting to get their hands on some precious commodities.

Interesting sale in that some younger sires made their mark -Distorted Humor, Mr. Greely, etc.......

Round Pen 09-12-2006 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
No, I wasn't. I obviously posted this before he sold. I got this colt confused with another one........$1.3 is pretty nice.
I also noticed that this was a terrible sale for AP Indy - I've never seen worse. He had one go for over $1 million (the Serena's Song colt), another for about $975, 000.00, but overall.........lots of RNA's and middling prices.

Trying not to be rude here Betsy but you obviously have not seen many sales AP Indy has done alot worse Heck I remember when One sold for $6,000 at the September sale. If you really want to see what I am Talking About go to Keenelands Web site And Search the Sales Results. Believe What I am telling you he has had horses sale for 25k 27k 32k all in Sept. This may have not been his best year but in now way was it his worse.

Rupert Pupkin 09-12-2006 06:16 PM

Unless you have unlimited money, the first couple of day of that sale are a total waste. The prices are just crazy. We pretty much don't even waste our time looking at any horses that are going in the ring on Day 1 or Day 2. There is a chance of finding something for a relatively reasonable price on Day 3, but even Day 3 has pretty high prices. We do most of our buying on Days 4-9 or so. You can find a lot of nice horses in the $100,000 range on these days.

oracle80 09-12-2006 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paisjpq
that's an interesting point mike and could explain some rather uninspiring prices on nice horses.

I was going to point out a few but could point out many more than a few who went surprisingly low, they couldnt all have been crooked.
The shock of the century was Smarty Jones full sister selling for less than 300 grand. I mean are you kidding me? If he pans out as a sire then shes worth 20 times that as a broodmare and Ed gaudet of Maryland got her.
Bottom line is that for the folks who got the big money, they love the Coolmore/Maktoum feud. But many many consignors are in mortal agony right now after getting about 1/5th- 1/2 of what they thought they would get.
I know several folks in business with big bucks who said they werent even gonna have anyone vet out or look at the yearlings in the first two days.
I honestly believe that everyone believed that anything worth having would be bought by the Sheikhs, and that it was a waste of time.
The problem is that they didn't bid on anyone who wasnt on their list, they just bid determinedly on what they did want.
The averages may go up based on the top 10 big purchases, but overall I think there are a lotta disappointed folks tonight who got lots less than they thought they would.

Danzig 09-12-2006 06:26 PM

i can't believe how low the full sis to smarty went for...she must be crooked or something.

Danzig 09-12-2006 06:28 PM

lol oops, oracle already mentione crooked and smartys sister.

but after seeing horses like wild fit go for what they went for(she of course was purchased after the bcjf for her future worth as a broodmare), i just can't get over it.

Rupert Pupkin 09-12-2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
i can't believe how low the full sis to smarty went for...she must be crooked or something.

She may not have scoped well. They scope these yearlings the same way they scope the 2 year olds at the 2 year old sales. If a horse has a really bad throat, that will knock their price way down.

Another thing that can hurt the sales prices are chips. A lot of these horses have chips. Just from running around out in the pasture as yearlings, they get chips. Depending on how bad the chip is, it can have a big impact on the sales price. You would be shocked at how amny of these yearlings have chips. I don't know the exact number but it's probably somewhere around 10-20%.

Danzig 09-12-2006 06:40 PM

you would just think tho that she would have more value than that as a broodmare....i'm surprised, but probably not as surprised as her seller!

who knows, hell they can't all go for 8-10 mill...

BellamyRd. 09-12-2006 07:15 PM

Damned Arabs got my Storm Cat...I've been shut out again!


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