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Antitrust32 02-16-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 753164)
I'll call you a bigot if you act like one. Are you?

I'm bigoted towards old lady's who live in Kentucky and think they are smarter than what they are.

I'm bigoted towards the 100,000,000 Muslim scum that treat women like ****.

Riot 02-16-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 753165)
okay
keep on sticking up for Muslim men who hurt women.

I didn't remotely do that.

When you make crap up about other posters, you just look like a liar.

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 753164)
I'll call you a bigot if you act like one. Are you?

and it is EXTREMELY telling that this is all you pulled out of that post.


go ahead and ignore the sexual mistreatment of 98% of foreign women and 83% of Egyptian women. its your M O

Riot 02-16-2011 04:27 PM

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I'm bigoted towards old lady's who live in Kentucky and think they are smarter than what they are.
No, that's just being a common biatch.

Riot 02-16-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 753169)
and it is EXTREMELY telling that this is all you pulled out of that post.

go ahead and ignore the sexual mistreatment of 98% of foreign women and 83% of Egyptian women. its your M O

Who is ignoring that? I posted a article about that very thing early on in this thread. Seems you are a bit late to the party, jumping on that bandwagon.

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 753153)
Oh! Do you really care about that now? Because you're known for your pent-up rage against white people.

you're one ridiculous bitch

miraja2 02-16-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 753162)
Randall was right on when talking about the representation of the Egyptian men protestors.

You have to read this:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/02/1...x.html?hpt=T2#

"If you are a woman living in Cairo, chances are you have been sexually harassed. It happens on the streets, on crowded buses, in the workplace, in schools, and even in a doctor's office.

According to a 2008 survey of 1,010 women conducted by the Egyptian Center for Women's rights, 98 percent of foreign women and 83 percent of Egyptian women have been sexually harassed."

98% of foreign women and 83% of Egyptian women seem like its a huge cultural problem to me.

But hey, Riot will just call me a bigot because I feel like Muslim men... particularly in the Middle East.. treat women like absolute dog crap.

Sexual harassment is a disgusting practice. But wouldn't you agree that there is a pretty big difference between sexual harassment and what happened here?
Clearly there is a vast cultural divide with regard to the rights of women, but the implication in the thread seemed to be that "Democracy In Egypt" would mean the systematic raping of women. I think its a bit more complicated than that, and I think Riot was correct in pointing out that the weeks of protest without widespread reports of rape shouldn't be tossed aside by this one - admittedly horrendous - incident.

I don't think anybody is saying that an Egyptian democracy will mean a state where women are afforded equal rights. But that doesn't mean it will automatically be a society where women are raped all the time (or where rape is viewed as acceptable) either.

Riot 02-16-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 753172)
you're one ridiculous bitch

You don't like being on the receiving end of ridiculous crap from other posters? Using your own words? Poor you.

Riot 02-16-2011 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 753173)
Sexual harassment is a disgusting practice. But wouldn't you agree that there is a pretty big difference between sexual harassment and what happened here?
Clearly there is a vast cultural divide with regard to the rights of women, but the implication in the thread seemed to be that "Democracy In Egypt" would mean the systematic raping of women. I think its a bit more complicated than that, and I think Riot was correct in pointing out that the weeks of protest withoutt widespread reports of rape shouldn't be tossed aside by this one - admittedly horrendous - incident.

I don't think anybody is saying that an Egyptian democracy will mean a state where women are afforded equal rights. But that doesn't mean it will automatically be a society where women are raped all the time either.

Stop trying to inject reason, sanity and thought about a real and serious subject into a "bash Riot" thread.

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 04:32 PM

Last Word

Riot 02-16-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 753176)
Last Word

I laughed. At you thinking you deserve that respect.

miraja2 02-16-2011 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 753175)
Stop trying to inject reason, sanity and thought about a real and serious subject into a "bash Riot" thread.

Well....when people ask you to explain a point that you made and you refuse to do so and instead just tell them that they're "full of ****" I'm not going to feel all that sorry for you.

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 753173)
Sexual harassment is a disgusting practice. But wouldn't you agree that there is a pretty big difference between sexual harassment and what happened here?
Clearly there is a vast cultural divide with regard to the rights of women, but the implication in the thread seemed to be that "Democracy In Egypt" would mean the systematic raping of women. I think its a bit more complicated than that, and I think Riot was correct in pointing out that the weeks of protest without widespread reports of rape shouldn't be tossed aside by this one - admittedly horrendous - incident.

I don't think anybody is saying that an Egyptian democracy will mean a state where women are afforded equal rights. But that doesn't mean it will automatically be a society where women are raped all the time (or where rape is viewed as acceptable) either.

That is why it is extremely important that outside interests make sure that a strict version of Islam is not put in place in Egypt. It is very important that the Muslim Brotherhood, or people with those ideals (Sharia Law) stay out of Egyptian politics.

Because with Sharia Law, and the 100,000,000 Muslims who practice / believe that... rape is acceptable. You are ALLOWED to rape your wife. and if you rape women, she will be punished for "fornication".. sometimes with the death penalty.

It is important that we dont turn a blind eye to these disgusting practices that occur in the Middle East every day.

But I'm just a bigot, so what do i know!

also, sexual harrassment in Egypt seems a little bit different than our definition over here.. Women get groped in public, treated like lower class, are generally considered to not be on the same stature as men.

miraja2 02-16-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 753179)
That is why it is extremely important that outside interests make sure that a strict version of Islam is not put in place in Egypt. It is very important that the Muslim Brotherhood, or people with those ideals (Sharia Law) stay out of Egyptian politics.

It seems unlikely that they'll be kept "out." If a parliamentary system is what they end up with, it seems likely that the Muslim Brotherhood will win some seats. How many is, of course, impossible to know, but I don't see how they could be kept out entirely.

Riot 02-16-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 753178)
Well....when people ask you to explain a point that you made and you refuse to do so and instead just tell them that they're "full of ****" I'm not going to feel all that sorry for you.

Yeah. Because saying, "Glad she'll be okay" was really evil of me.

And maybe you should go back and read the beginning of this thread, and count all those people asking me to explain that point? And who was insulting and attacking who?

miraja2 02-16-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 753182)
Yeah. Because saying, "Glad she'll be okay" was really evil of me.

And maybe you should go back and read the beginning of this thread, and count all those people asking me to explain that point? And who was insulting and attacking who?

That's not what she was asking you to explain.
She asked about your football celebration example, and you refused to explain.

That's fine I guess, but I'm not sure why you're surprised when people "bash" you when you insist on behaving in that fashion.

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 753181)
It seems unlikely that they'll be kept "out." If a parliamentary system is what they end up with, it seems likely that the Muslim Brotherhood will win some seats. How many is, of course, impossible to know, but I don't see how they could be kept out entirely.

I just hope for the Egyptian people... the women and children especially... that this process goes as well as it can go.

If the wrong people get in power and enforce a strict version of Islam, there will not only be danger for the people of Egypt (especially the women / children), but for the entire world.

Last thing we need is another Ahmadinejad in a country like Egypt.

Riot 02-16-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 753183)
That's not what she was asking you to explain.
She asked about your football celebration example, and you refused to explain.

That's fine I guess, but I'm not sure why you're surprised when people "bash" you when you insist on behaving in that fashion.

Strange attitude you have about who is allowed to say what. Someone spends several posts dissing me and insulting me, then suddenly pretends they want to have a serious conversation, and I should just ignore their behaviour a few minutes prior?

Have you read this thread? Go back to page one, read it through, and count how "badly" I've behaved.

dellinger63 02-16-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 752925)
You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right. I wasn't making light of her attack. I'm horrified at what happened to her, and at the other reporter who was killed, and at all the reporters who were beaten.

And I'm not the one here taking the horrible attack on Lara, and using her attack as political fodder to support their Islamophobia and hate. Talk about insensitive jackasses using the misery of others to justify their hate. It's appalling and pathetic, this occurring in this day and age in America.

Listen you dumb biatch you said you were "glad she was all right" not that 'she was all right'! Quote me right!

dellinger63 02-16-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 753189)
Listen you dumb biatch you said you were "glad she was all right" not that 'she was all right'! Quote me right!

and from KY glad you know she's all right. Again when in America have 200 men of any religion banned up and sexually attacked a woman? Tell us again how great Egypt is compared to the rest of Muslim countries!

On behalf of the reporter and all women GFY!


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