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dellinger63 02-11-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751327)
How'd that U.S. ability work out with Iran?


we got 'Cartered'

dalakhani 02-11-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751327)
How'd that U.S. ability work out with Iran?

Hey, I didn't say that it was the "best" or "right" course of action. I don't think anyone in the state dept would claim that this strategy is a lasting solution. At the same time, over history, the US has found a viable puppet to stand in and play "leader" in destabilized third world countries at least for a little while.

You bring up the Shah and he played ball too well for his own good. He wasn't a US find but we certainly endorsed him for the 30 some odd years he was in power.

Princess Doreen 02-11-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 751336)
Hey, I didn't say that it was the "best" or "right" course of action. I don't think anyone in the state dept would claim that this strategy is a lasting solution. At the same time, over history, the US has found a viable puppet to stand in and play "leader" in destabilized third world countries at least for a little while.

You bring up the Shah and he played ball too well for his own good. He wasn't a US find but we certainly endorsed him for the 30 some odd years he was in power.

History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-11-2011 10:29 AM

can we send obama there to live till this is sorted out?

Coach Pants 02-11-2011 10:30 AM

Freedom Allah!

dellinger63 02-11-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 751350)
Freedom Allah!

In a secular way. :D

Antitrust32 02-11-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751339)
History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

I think that started after Muhommad was invented.

that or after Jews were given part of the middle east.

Riot 02-11-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751226)
Hopefully Riot doesn't see this. Riot will accuse you of being hateful. If I posted that Riot would say I'm a hateful person.

No, I only called your talk (not you, so stop lying about what I said) hateful when it's prejudiced and bigoted.

Keep trying. But I don't think anybody is buying your victimhood.

Riot 02-11-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751339)
History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence. Granted, a strong dictatorship doesn't allow terrorism, so a vacuum is what would be feared. Certainly that is a worry. Right now, there are not heavy extremist elements in the country. The army is conscription and beloved and trusted by the people (better be, because they've essentially had a coup)

Nascar1966 02-11-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 751549)
No, I only called your talk (not you, so stop lying about what I said) hateful when it's prejudiced and bigoted.

Keep trying. But I don't think anybody is buying your victimhood.

Jimmy Crackcorn and I dont care.

Princess Doreen 02-11-2011 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 751553)
But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence. Granted, a strong dictatorship doesn't allow terrorism, so a vacuum is what would be feared. Certainly that is a worry. Right now, there are not heavy extremist elements in the country. The army is conscription and beloved and trusted by the people (better be, because they've essentially had a coup)

We can only hope that it does not progress to something that we have to worry about. There's enough on our plate already.

dellinger63 02-11-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 751553)
But I think Egypt is alot more resistant to terrorism and Islamic extremism. The Muslim and small Christian communities share religious tolerance very well there, and the MB there (only in Egypt) is intolerant of violence.)

Tell me how the MB as you call it I prefer MUSLIM brotherhood is anyway secular? And I capitalized MUSLIM because I thought that meant a belief in Islam? Guess we shall go real deep and I thought Islam is a belief in Muhammad. Are secular egyptians who are muslims and thus part of the MB as you call it fans of Muhammad Ali?

Riot 02-11-2011 08:33 PM

Dell goes off on some weird tangent caused by his inability to understand what other people write. Again.
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Tell me how the MB as you call it I prefer MUSLIM brotherhood is anyway secular? And I capitalized MUSLIM because I thought that meant a belief in Islam?
????? I never said it was secular.

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Guess we shall go real deep and I thought Islam is a belief in Muhammad. Are secular egyptians who are muslims and thus part of the MB as you call it fans of Muhammad Ali?
Just crazy, aren't you?

Riot 02-11-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751619)
We can only hope that it does not progress to something that we have to worry about. There's enough on our plate already.

Ditto. Fingers crossed in a big way.

Danzig 02-11-2011 08:58 PM

egypt historically has been a lot friendlier to other religions, unlike many other countries in that region. here's hoping it continues. also, here's hoping egypt is the better for this revolt in the end. guess we'll see how it all goes.

Riot 02-12-2011 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 751659)
egypt historically has been a lot friendlier to other religions, unlike many other countries in that region. here's hoping it continues. also, here's hoping egypt is the better for this revolt in the end. guess we'll see how it all goes.

In early Feb, when Mubarak sent the police in to beat the protestors, even the Muslims were beaten when at prayer in public. The Christians started circling the Muslims when they stopped to pray, to protect them while they were praying It was pretty amazing and cool to see that.

A peaceful revolt - absolutely amazing. What a great time in history for them.

Nascar1966 02-12-2011 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 751646)
Dell goes off on some weird tangent caused by his inability to understand what other people write. Again.


????? I never said it was secular.



Just crazy, aren't you?

LMAO. I see why Dell thinks so highly of you.

Nascar1966 02-12-2011 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751339)
History has a way of repeating itself. I see this recent Egypt scenario strikingly similar to what happened in Iran in 1979 - the beginning of all our problems with terrorists.

I am in agreement with you. Didn't the US give all that aid to Iran before they took our people hostage?

Nascar1966 02-12-2011 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 748457)
Obama is dropping the ball again. Shocking. How many days will it take for terrorists to enter Egypt through Sudan and set up shop?

Could be looking at up to 20,000 Americans stuck.

Obama dropping the ball? Something new to me. Obama is on a basketball court thinking it is a golf course

dellinger63 02-12-2011 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 751646)
Dell goes off on some weird tangent caused by his inability to understand what other people write. Again.


????? I never said it was secular.



Just crazy, aren't you?

sorry I get you and that Rachel Maddow confused all the time. She said it not you so carry-on. BTW how's that Ground Zero mosque coming along? Should be built by now. No?


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