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Dahoss 12-26-2010 08:52 PM

I'm just not sure how a track could be labeled speed favoring when closers win.

Riot 12-26-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 737050)
I'm just not sure how a track could be labeled speed favoring when closers win.

Well, I "have no opinion", "don't know what I'm talking about", "don't know anything about race tracks", and "have an agenda".

So if I were you, I would just smile and take my money.

blackthroatedwind 12-26-2010 09:20 PM

If you actually have a defendable position there is no reason to resort to the passive aggressive " poor me " position that is so prevelent on the internet when people get backed into a corner after trying to establish what is ultimately an indefensible opinion.

Or, how about " maybe I was wrong. "

knickslions2 12-26-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 737035)
What a giant effort out of Twirling Candy. Im not sure Sidney and Twirling wont stretch out either. Its different going 9f or 10f on dirt then it was on the old ****. Those 2 are STRONG.

Gotta love Twirling. Can't believe $9 to win, plus $25 on the exacta. Never thought I would get that. Nice way to get back damn xmas money. Hope the horse keeps pushing forward 2011.

geeker2 12-26-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 737006)
*popcorn eating emoticon*

:D

Riot 12-26-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 737066)
If you actually have a defendable position there is no reason to resort to the passive aggressive " poor me " position that is so prevelent on the internet when people get backed into a corner after trying to establish what is ultimately an indefensible opinion.

Or, how about " maybe I was wrong. "

LOL. Let's see. I took back the use of "concrete highway" as indeed being an unfair characterization. But no, I don't feel my assessment is wrong at all. Not everything about horse racing is precisely quantifiable.

We'll see what others opinions are when track variables and figures come out, and these horses run back in the future.

Sorry for you and the other self-characterized more knowledgeable here, but no, I don't feel I have to "defend" my opinion any more than I already have discussed it. It's called opinion for a reason. You don't like my opinion, or think it's wrong, or silly, good for you! That's what makes parimutual racing.

Neither do I think it is passive-aggressive or "poor me" to name other people's behaviour for precisely what it is. I suppose you evaluate others through your own behaviour patterns, though.

blackthroatedwind 12-26-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 737087)
LOL. Let's see. I took back the use of "concrete highway" as indeed being an unfair characterization. But no, I don't feel my assessment is wrong at all. Not everything about horse racing is precisely quantifiable.

We'll see what others opinions are when track variables and figures come out, and these horses run back in the future.

Sorry for you and the other self-characterized more knowledgeable here, but no, I don't feel I have to "defend" my opinion any more than I already have discussed it. It's called opinion for a reason. You don't like my opinion, or think it's wrong, or silly, good for you! That's what makes parimutual racing.

Neither do I think it is passive-aggressive or "poor me" to name other people's behaviour for precisely what it is. I suppose you evaluate others through your own behaviour patterns, though.

Actually, the only one in this conversation that is " self-characterized " as, really, anything, is you.

You would be able to defend your opinion if it actually was defendable. It isn't in this case. But, hey, you can always resort to ridiculous characterizations in that case.

Riot 12-26-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 737094)
Actually, the only one in this conversation that is " self-characterized " as, really, anything, is you.

You would be able to defend your opinion if it actually was defendable. It isn't in this case. But, hey, you can always resort to ridiculous characterizations in that case.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

Too bad you don't extend the same courtesy back to me.

RolloTomasi 12-26-2010 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 737016)
Nice call for a change..Stick to needles

Whatever Freddy. You laughed at me too when I said Twirling Candy would tank in the Goodwood and would appear in the Malibu next time out.

For the record, he probably would have won the lowly Sir Beaufort as well if Sadler swapped those two colts.

RolloTomasi 12-26-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 737025)
Rollo has left the building.....Again..what a buffoon

Not sure where this is coming from. Is it because I said elsewhere that John Sadler is primarily a trainer of sprinters?

You did notice the distances of today's races, right?

Apology accepted.

RockHardTen1985 12-26-2010 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 737152)
Whatever Freddy. You laughed at me too when I said Twirling Candy would tank in the Goodwood and would appear in the Malibu next time out.

For the record, he probably would have won the lowly Sir Beaufort as well if Sadler swapped those two colts.


I think the trip,ride and jockey did him in in the Goodwood.

RolloTomasi 12-26-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 737156)
I think the trip,ride and jockey did him in in the Goodwood.

Elaborate please. I don't really remember the race.

He settled fine early as you expected cutting back. Not sure he'll settle as well in a route, particularly in a typical CA graded stakes with a short field.

We'll see what he can do around two turns again in the San Fernando, Strub, and Big Cap (he should start in at least one of those).

freddymo 12-27-2010 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 737155)
Not sure where this is coming from. Is it because I said elsewhere that John Sadler is primarily a trainer of sprinters?

You did notice the distances of today's races, right?

Apology accepted.

Will you stop already..You should know by now not to take me serious

Alan07 12-27-2010 02:34 PM

No times posted in today's 1st.

Riot 12-27-2010 09:50 PM

New dirt track plays fast and safe on opening day
By Steve Andersen
www.drf.com

ARCADIA, Calif. – A day after two longstanding track records were broken on the debut of a newly installed sand-and-clay racetrack at Santa Anita, the horses who set the records emerged without mishap, and horsemen and track executives said they were pleased with the way the track performed.

While many trainers had expected the track to be quick, considering workout times from recent weeks, Sunday’s times on the opening day of the spring-summer meeting were surprisingly fast.

Trainer John Sadler, who was the star of the day with three stakes wins, including Grade 1 wins with Switch and Twirling Candy, said his horses were fine.

“The main thing is horses are pulling up well,” he said.

http://www.drf.com/news/new-dirt-tra...fe-opening-day

blackthroatedwind 12-27-2010 09:53 PM

Reprinting articles in the above manner is a violation of copyright laws....which has been mentioned here about eight million times by Byk.

Kasept 12-28-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 737644)
Opening day provided quite the frontispiece, as predicted on the home page.

Thanks so much... You're too kind. I'm here all week!

Riot 12-28-2010 04:04 PM

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Last edited by NTamm1215 : Yesterday at 10:59 PM. Reason: Whole Article Re-printed
Thank you, NTamm!


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