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CSC	11-13-2010 11:41 AM

Cesario, her American Oaks was one of the best performances I can remember by a 3 yr old or female turf horse.

DaTruth

11-13-2010 02:38 PM

As the advocate for Fair Grounds based runners, I have to suggest Blushing KD for the 3yo fillies of the 1990s. She was a terror for the first half of 1997 before breaking down while prepping for the Haskell.

Indian Charlie

11-13-2010 11:55 PM

Did Moni get the boot?

Looks like it.

With Monipenny pulling up out of the race, it looks like Smoothie has his spot secured.

Slewbopper

11-14-2010 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 722745)

Perrault was certainly a very good horse - and he was excllent on both surfaces for a stretch over 6 months time in '82.

What's crazy about the 80's is that foal crops were absolutely gigantic in volume, the largest of any decade - that combined with the fact that horses seemed a lot more durable - seemed to make competition so solid in the major races in relation to what it is today.

There was a horse I looked at named Peat Moss - who was a close 2nd to John Henry in a 500K Grade 1 on dirt at 50/1 odds - this horse made 29 starts in a span of just over 15 months time .. ran at distances as far as 2.25 miles on two seperate occasions .. and carried as much weight as 145lbs.

Peat was the king of the Aquedirt inner dirt marathon handicaps. He ran with 6 screws in one leg. He sure gave John all he could handle in the '81 JCGC, the race that won John his first HOY

keithting

11-14-2010 08:52 AM

In talking about the beloved Peat Moss, one must also bring up the real "King of Aqueduct" as named by the fans - King's Swan who campaigned for Dutrow, Sr. in the 1980's.

Also, I don't understand the fascination with a horse racing 29 times in 15 months - horse of that era used to do that all the time.

The Indomitable DrugS

11-14-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 723090)

Also, I don't understand the fascination with a horse racing 29 times in 15 months - horse of that era used to do that all the time.

29 times in 15 months - at an avg distance of 12.12 furlongs per race - with a 2nd by a head at 50/1 to a future first ballot hall of famer in a Grade 1 race - and carrying as much as 145lbs to victory - and supposedly with 6 screws in one leg ... and you don't understand the fascination?

Oh - and the name of his dam is Moss.

That was only the 1980's - if they tried to do that with a horse today - PETA would start a campaign to spare the poor horsey and Todd Pletcher's head would explode.

The Indomitable DrugS

11-14-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by keithting (Post 723090)

In talking about the beloved Peat Moss, one must also bring up the real "King of Aqueduct" as named by the fans - King's Swan who campaigned for Dutrow, Sr. in the 1980's.

Dutrow Sr. actually took it easy on the poor guy compared to Richard Nieminski.

Nieminski started the poor guy 22 times in 1984 alone. By far his busiest year of nine seasons. Those horses were freaking machines compared to today.

dalakhani

11-14-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 722627)

High chaparrel
Islington
Orientate
Ashado
Candy ride
Vindication

What did you think of these drugs? Close? Vindy over street sense? Candy ride over mdo? Orientate over fabulous strike? Islington is a pretty underrated mare in my opinion as is ashado.

keithting

11-14-2010 11:18 AM

I am not doubting the remarkable career of Peat Moss - - I'm saying that horses typically ran much more frequently and at longer distances back in the 70's and 80's.

I pulled my old program from 1981 Belmont Stakes day (June 6, 1981) -

1st 1 Mile Dirt
2nd 1 1/4 Mile ITC
3rd 6 F Dirt
4th 1 Mile WTC
5th 1 1/4 Mile ITC
6th 1 1/2 Mile WTC
7th 1 Mile Dirt
8th 1 1/2 Dirt (Won by Summing)
9th 7 F Dirt

FATPIANO

11-15-2010 11:44 AM

Davona Dale..........

The Indomitable DrugS

11-15-2010 12:56 PM

Davona Dale only ran 3 times in the 1980's and won nothing more than a Grade 3.

The Indomitable DrugS

11-15-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 723141)

What did you think of these drugs? Close? Vindy over street sense? Candy ride over mdo? Orientate over fabulous strike? Islington is a pretty underrated mare in my opinion as is ashado.

I think Candy Ride might have been a better horse than MDO (who was a VERY good horse) - but he didn't run often enough.

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