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ateamstupid 11-03-2010 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 715517)
Your memory needs some refreshing then. Ie. Post Woodward threads 2009. The ironic thing is if she had retired, she would be the one being mentioned alongside of some of the greats of the game right now.
Nope. Not nearly the same. She was never called the greatest horse ever by otherwise reasonable people, she never got a 60 Minutes special, etc. You're delusional as usual.

CSC 11-03-2010 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 715518)
That's not true at all. I said it was lunacy to say RA was an all time great, or even a better filly than Rags to Riches.
Ok fair enough, then good on you. All I remember was taking it from all sides, for daring to question her record and Jess's actions of shutting her down with 4 months of racing left in the year.

Indian Charlie 11-03-2010 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 715523)
Ok fair enough, then good on you. All I remember was taking it from all sides, for daring to question her record and Jess's actions of shutting her down with 4 months of racing left in the year.
He had every right to shut her down. She actually ran a taxing campaign.

Dahoss 11-03-2010 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 715518)
That's not true at all. I said it was lunacy to say RA was an all time great, or even a better filly than Rags to Riches.
She was better than Rags To Riches IMO.

Indian Charlie 11-03-2010 11:46 AM
Not in my eyes. I could never see RA beating Curlin, under any conditions other than her getting a 5 length lead going real slow.

Even then, I doubt it.

I think the reason RA looked as good as she did was the atrocious level of competition she faced.

lemoncrush 11-03-2010 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 715650)
She was better than Rags To Riches IMO.
I think they would have had a great match-up if they battled going 1-1/16 or 1-1/8.

At a 1-1/4, I would give the advantage to R2R.

Dahoss 11-03-2010 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 715653)
Not in my eyes. I could never see RA beating Curlin, under any conditions other than her getting a 5 length lead going real slow.

Even then, I doubt it.

I think the reason RA looked as good as she did was the atrocious level of competition she faced.
It depends on the distance I think. At 12 furlongs, which we run like 4 of those a year, yeah Rags was better. She was better at 10 also. But I'd take RA at 9 furlongs. The RA of last year that is.

You should look at some of those fields Rags beat.

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ateamstupid 11-03-2010 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 715679)
It depends on the distance I think. At 12 furlongs, which we run like 4 of those a year, yeah Rags was better. She was better at 10 also. But I'd take RA at 9 furlongs. The RA of last year that is.

You should look at some of those fields Rags beat.
Seconded.

DaTruth 11-03-2010 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 715511)
yes I will include the same Sentiment to those that are premature in their declarations of Zenyatta being the greatest before Sat's race.
Those assertions are not just premature, but also patently absurd. Zenyatta can win on Saturday by double digit lengths, and still no reasonable person would refer to her as the greatest. Anyone who thinks she is better than Secretariat is suffering from dementia.

Indian Charlie 11-03-2010 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 715679)
It depends on the distance I think. At 12 furlongs, which we run like 4 of those a year, yeah Rags was better. She was better at 10 also. But I'd take RA at 9 furlongs. The RA of last year that is.

You should look at some of those fields Rags beat.
Rags 7f race was spectacular.

Dahoss 11-03-2010 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 715743)
Rags 7f race was spectacular.
It was pretty good. There was also nothing at all behind her. Again, look at some of the fields she beat.

Indian Charlie 11-03-2010 03:09 PM
Yup. She wasn't in the deepest of crops ever, I'll give you that.

Her Ky Oaks field was far better than RA's though, you have to admit that.

Dahoss 11-03-2010 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 715767)
Yup. She wasn't in the deepest of crops ever, I'll give you that.

Her Ky Oaks field was far better than RA's though, you have to admit that.
Of course it was...that was an awful field last year.

Left Bank 11-03-2010 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 715726)
Those assertions are not just premature, but also patently absurd. Zenyatta can win on Saturday by double digit lengths, and still no reasonable person would refer to her as the greatest. Anyone who thinks she is better than Secretariat is suffering from dementia.
Total agreement.

Antitrust32 11-03-2010 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 715771)
Of course it was...that was an awful field last year.
which is why Rachel won by 20 in a very good time!


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