Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 700868)

This is definitely foreshadowing that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao isn't gonna happen either.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 700916)

I disagree with the bolded. people who watch races and dont wager on them dont hold much value to this sport IMO. Personally, I dont hold value to this sport because I do not wager much. Everyone involved at the race track makes money only one way.. through wagering.

Though you arent going to get an arguement from me about the stupid owners & trainers these days that dont race the horses and dont create rivalries. It would be very good for the excitement of the people involved in the sport, I just question what it will do to bring in more gamblers. I think its a different world now than the 70's.. dont know if rivalries would bring in the new blood. Besides, things arent going to change so even if there are rivalries.. what are two horses running against each other 4 times and then retiring going to do for anyone?

Showing people that they can make money from this sport is the best way to grow popularity IMO. There are TONS of people out there who love to gamble... poker, sports betting, etc. We somehow need to get their attention. I think that once those action junkies could visit a race track live a few times.. it would create so much new blood. How do we get them to come to the track?

Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 700868)

This is definitely foreshadowing that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao isn't gonna happen either.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 700928)

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 700930)

Though I agree, what would you rather see?

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 700935)

Don't get me wrong, I want the fight to go, just resigned to the fact it isn't going to happen. Much like I was with the RA/Zen race we all wanted. Plenty of blame to go around too in both situations.

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 700938)

Debbie Downer voice or Dudley Do Right voice? What did I say that isn't true?

In any event, it has nothing to do with being old (which I am most definitely not), but more to do with seeing things how they are. Racing is a sport that isn't carried financially by its stars and it will always be that way. Nothing anybody can do to change it.

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 700948)

One man's pessimism is another man's realism. And age isn't anything but a number. Zing.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 700916)

I disagree with the bolded. people who watch races and dont wager on them dont hold much value to this sport IMO. Personally, I dont hold value to this sport because I do not wager much. Everyone involved at the race track makes money only one way.. through wagering.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 700928)

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 700965)

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 700965)

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 700955)

Way too much time has been wasted on trying to get small time players (or non players) to come out to the track a couple of times a year. As opposed to focusing on your core audience and getting them to increase their handle- whether live, or off track.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 700974)

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late:D) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 700976)

I'm not sure I agree that the highlighted part has actually happened...though it has sure been talked to death.

Obviously, I agree with the latter part.

Yes, you want to introduce new people to the game if possible, and explore that, but it is your core customer that needs to be catered to.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 700981)

I have a hard time seeing where a race pitting two great fillies who have never met wouldn't appeal to both.