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slotdirt 08-11-2010 02:35 PM

Going 9f? There's no way you're catching Ghostzapper of Formal Gold on dirt.

Indian Charlie 08-11-2010 02:49 PM

You'd pretty much have to have no clue if you think GZ would finish in the money against that field.

Do people really believe he'd get the lead???

miraja2 08-11-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 681710)
You'd pretty much have to have no clue if you think GZ would finish in the money against that field.

Do people really believe he'd get the lead???

No, but I don't think he would need it. Remember the race he ran in the Vosburgh?

CSC 08-11-2010 03:09 PM

In the context of this discussion, I would rather see the horses tested at 10 furlongs rather than 9, setting a parameter at 9 furlongs would be the equivalent of when boxing went to 12 rounds from 15. Further to this why not have these same horses race against each other 9 times within a 12 month period allowing a reasonable 5-6 weeks between races. Having a mythical one race match based on a horse's best performance is like having to beat the 2008 18-0 N.E England Pats once and saying they were a better team.

Indian Charlie 08-11-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 681726)
In the context of this discussion, I would rather see the horses tested at 10 furlongs rather than 9, setting a parameter at 9 furlongs would be the equivalent of when boxing went to 12 rounds from 15. Further to this why not have these same horses race against each other 9 times within a 12 month period allowing a reasonable 5-6 weeks between races. Having a mythical one race match based on a horse's best performance is like having to beat the 2008 18-0 N.E England Pats once and saying they were a better team.

I think the condition should be changed to 5.5f on dirt.

Then it becomes a 2 horse race.

CSC 08-11-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 681727)
I think the condition should be changed to 5.5f on dirt.

Then it becomes a 2 horse race.

Based on 2.25 wins per year, I would vote for Ghostzapper.

Antitrust32 08-11-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 681673)
Tiznow, Dubai Millenium, Ghostzapper, Formal Gold tri and exacta box

Dougs post was just a bunch of red X's for me.. but those are some nice animals. I'd give my tri if I knew which horses were in the field!

Formal Gold was an absolute monster.

Just seeing your reply makes it laughable that anyone could consider Zenyatta being in the top 4

The 4 horses you mentioned would have crushed Zenyatta, Rachel, Eskendera, and basically anything we've seen the past couple years

Antitrust32 08-11-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 681687)
You wouldn't have had this ticket based on Skip Away's last race, he ran like crap.

:zz::zz::zz:

really??????

miraja2 08-11-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 681726)
In the context of this discussion, I would rather see the horses tested at 10 furlongs rather than 9, setting a parameter at 9 furlongs would be the equivalent of when boxing went to 12 rounds from 15. Further to this why not have these same horses race against each other 9 times within a 12 month period allowing a reasonable 5-6 weeks between races. Having a mythical one race match based on a horse's best performance is like having to beat the 2008 18-0 N.E England Pats once and saying they were a better team.

Wouldn't Candy Ride, Gentleman, and Zenyatta drop dead from flying that many times over the Rockies?

Antitrust32 08-11-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 681726)
In the context of this discussion, I would rather see the horses tested at 10 furlongs rather than 9, setting a parameter at 9 furlongs would be the equivalent of when boxing went to 12 rounds from 15. Further to this why not have these same horses race against each other 9 times within a 12 month period allowing a reasonable 5-6 weeks between races. Having a mythical one race match based on a horse's best performance is like having to beat the 2008 18-0 N.E England Pats once and saying they were a better team.

another insanely idiotic comment.

Antitrust32 08-11-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 681740)
Wouldn't Candy Ride, Gentleman, and Zenyatta drop dead from flying that many times over the Rockies?

They dont make planes that fly that far... duh.

CSC 08-11-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 681738)
:zz::zz::zz:

really??????

What's confusing you Antitrust? The post was based on looking at his past p's but his last race was missing, I don't know if you buy stocks, but when you look at income statements you want the whole picture and not just the best performing year.

NTamm1215 08-11-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 681753)
What's confusing you Antitrust? The post was based on looking at his past p's but his last race was missing, I don't know if you buy stocks, but when you look at income statements you want the whole picture and not just the best performing year.

Um, I think Doug was trying to pit the horses against each other at their peak.

NT

miraja2 08-11-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 681759)
Um, I think Doug was trying to pit the horses against each other at their peak.

NT

CSC doesn't allow that in hypothetical races. He also doesn't allow 9f contests.

Antitrust32 08-11-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 681753)
What's confusing you Antitrust? The post was based on looking at his past p's but his last race was missing, I don't know if you buy stocks, but when you look at income statements you want the whole picture and not just the best performing year.

because it was a ridiculous post CSC, you should be able to realize that!

CSC 08-11-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 681759)
Um, I think Doug was trying to pit the horses against each other at their peak.

NT

Really Nick, we know the reason why the list was posted. I have a trained monkey on my shoulder telling me who ran the best beyer, there is no need to analyze it any further.

Antitrust32 08-11-2010 03:54 PM

Just for you my friend CSC,

Who wins at 10 furlongs on their worst day?

Merlinsky 08-11-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 681702)
Because DrugS got bored with the original question and asked a new one.

Ooooh. :) Okie doke. I was thinking we all suddenly forgot to add and subtract. Wouldn't be the first time. Being absorbed with things all summer, I keep forgetting what day of the week it is.

CSC 08-11-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 681782)
Just for you my friend CSC,

Who wins at 10 furlongs on their worst day?

I presume your question is a serious one, on this list I would go with Cigar. His losing Classic was far better than Skip Away's if you want to use these 2 as examples. But then again if this question is a trap horses like Ghostzapper and Candy Ride raced so sporadically they were not often in positions to run a bad race. Ghostzapper won 9 races in 4 years of racing, it's hard to have a bad day when you race this infrequently. Comments?

Thunder Gulch 08-11-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 681743)
They dont make planes that fly that far... duh.

Planes??? Don't you know Zenyatta sprouted wings last November and does her own flying. That's why it knocks her out for a couple of days.


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