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ateamstupid 08-01-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 676830)
The beyer will be good enough, Im guessing 110-115 range.

I highly doubt that.

RockHardTen1985 08-01-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 676836)
I highly doubt that.


I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

ateamstupid 08-01-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 676838)
I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

That's subjective. What isn't subjective is the time, which was pedestrian. It wasn't a wicked fast track to begin with, and perhaps it got slower throughout the day, but a 110-115 Beyer still seems unlikely compared to the other dirt races IMO.

brianwspencer 08-01-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 676824)
He is a slow synthetic horse who always beats a bunch of bad california horses

signed,

most of this board 5 months or so ago

Was this really an epidemic 5 months ago here?

Not so sure, but don't let that stop you.

Coach Pants 08-01-2010 05:23 PM

Glad I missed out on today's wagering. Only a.ssholes get excited about 6/5 shots. They're the same type of people that wear jerseys of their favorite players.

booner 08-01-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 676835)
1-8-4-6

Lookin at Lucky
Trappe Shot
First Dude
Super Saver

Thanks!

Danzig 08-01-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 676846)
Glad I missed out on today's wagering. Only a.ssholes get excited about 6/5 shots. They're the same type of people that wear jerseys of their favorite players.

yeah, i didn't bother. couldn't come up with an alt to lucky. soon as they put the camera on bob and bodhi i changed the channel. but not too quickly to see the time. what a crop this is...yawn

RockHardTen1985 08-01-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 676852)
yeah, i didn't bother. couldn't come up with an alt to lucky. soon as they put the camera on bob and bodhi i changed the channel. but not too quickly to see the time. what a crop this is...yawn


LOL

The Indomitable DrugS 08-01-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 676838)
I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

3kings 08-01-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 676846)
Glad I missed out on today's wagering. Only a.ssholes get excited about 6/5 shots. They're the same type of people that wear jerseys of their favorite players.

:tro::tro:

Scav 08-01-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 676854)
Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

More importantly are you still against Lucky in the Travers per your FB tout? And why?

Some things I took from the Haskell today

1) Baffert has a clue in obviously instructing Garcia to get his ass off the rail. My friend told me today that the rail hasn't been the place to be

2) Bravo sacrificed his horse to try and make Lucky move early knowing he was getting a great trip, I think it cost his horse 2nd or 3rd

3) Does Baffert have horses at Saratoga this summer? If he does, I would really like him to ship Lucky to Toga instead of going all the way back to California

Betsy 08-01-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 676854)
Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

Do you think Trappe Shot doesn't want to go 1 1/4 or just that this was a hard race and you think he'd be better of skipping the Travers? He's a very talented colt- I was impressed, even though he was clearly 2nd best.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-01-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 676859)
More importantly are you still against him in the Travers per your FB tout? And why?

Yes. Everything went just as I hoped it would in the Haskell...however, what I saw in the other two 3yo races was less than inspiring.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-01-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 676860)
Do you think Trappe Shot doesn't want to go 1 1/4 or just that this was a hard race and you think he'd be better of skipping the Travers? He's a very talented colt- I was impressed, even though he was clearly 2nd best.

I think he could get 10fs ... but I also think he's a lot better at 7fs at this stage of his development. MOTO take I would think.

fpsoxfan 08-01-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 676838)
I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

Same race as who?

ateamstupid 08-01-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 676859)
3) Does Baffert have horses at Saratoga this summer? If he does, I would really like him to ship Lucky to Toga instead of going all the way back to California

Baffert doesn't have stalls at Saratoga, but he often stables horses with John Terranova in New York.

the_fat_man 08-01-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 676859)

1) Baffert has a clue in obviously instructing Garcia to get his ass off the rail. My friend told me today that the rail hasn't been the place to be

They asked Peagram after the race what he thought whe they drew the rail yet again. He responded: "Good thing we have Martin Garcia". Didn't think about it at the time but clearly this is a dig against Gomez. Well done, Mike.

CSC 08-01-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 676882)
They asked Peagram after the race what he thought whe they drew the rail yet again. He responded: "Good thing we have Martin Garcia". Didn't think about it at the time but clearly this is a dig against Gomez. Well done, Mike.

Yeah, but he's still not as good as Rosario according to IDS, even though this is 2010, I suppose this is his breakout year if he can prove this isn't a one year abberation.

the_fat_man 08-01-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 676885)
Yeah, but he's still not as good as Rosario according to IDS, even though this is 2010, I suppose this is his breakout year if he can prove this isn't a one year abberation.

IDS?

He couldn't lick Rosario's boots. Rosario's ride on Skipshot is the ride of the year.

CSC 08-01-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 676886)
IDS?

He couldn't lick Rosario's boots. Rosario's ride on Skipshot is the ride of the year.

Short for I DrugS. You have to admit Garcia has improved this year, I don't know what Vic did with him, but he is not nearly the disaster he once was.


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