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Antitrust32 07-30-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675860)
Stop using facts, it flusters them, they'd much rather stick with their spoonfed "news" from FoxNews.

yeah okay Mr "Redskins are gonna have a better record than the Eagles". ;)

I cant wait to see Kolb in action.

SniperSB23 07-30-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675861)
yeah okay Mr "Redskins are gonna have a better record than the Eagles". ;)

I cant wait to see Kolb in action.

In six months this quote will look about as silly as Scav's one where he told me I must not watch the NFL if I thought the Packers would have a better record than the Bears last season.

SniperSB23 07-30-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675861)
yeah okay Mr "Redskins are gonna have a better record than the Eagles". ;)

I cant wait to see Kolb in action.

Really though I think it is pretty sad that the far right has gotten so ridiculous that we've reached the point that you and Coach Pants are now defending Obama when you both were critics of him from the beginning. I still haven't got an adequate answer from anyone as to what Obama was supposed to do about the oil spill. How is that his fault and if the biggest experts in the world were unable to stop it then how was he supposed to? And don't give me the he should have nuked it response. Amazing how in two years the right has forgotten about "drill baby drill" and now the BP situation is suddenly the fault of a Democrat.

brianwspencer 07-30-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675867)
Really though I think it is pretty sad that the far right has gotten so ridiculous that we've reached the point that you and Coach Pants are now defending Obama when you both were critics of him from the beginning.

And they still are critics -- but I think that there is some ability to be level-headed and say, "look, he's doing a pretty awful job and I don't like what he's doing," while still retaining the ability to avoid hyperbole, lies, and intellectual dishonesty.

And really, there are plenty of things to be pissed off at Obama for from both the Right and Left right now, so the need to jump to those dishonest attacks (which are standard fare around here) should be entirely unnecessary because there's plenty to criticize by actually just talking about the facts -- and that's what you've seen Coach and Lori do when criticizing him and complaining about things they don't like, but they apparently still have the ability to maintain some integrity and not fly off the deep end like some others who shall remain unnamed.

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675865)
In six months this quote will look about as silly as Scav's one where he told me I must not watch the NFL if I thought the Packers would have a better record than the Bears last season.

Not only are the Eagles going to have a much better record, but they will also beat the Skins twice this year.

You guys have McNabb hyped way too much. Even the players in Philly wanted Kolb over McNabb. D-Jax didnt even like McNabb much.

Kolb has twice the accuracy that McNabb does. McNabb lost his luster after he lost the superbowl and kept getting injured. He is so 2004!

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675867)
Really though I think it is pretty sad that the far right has gotten so ridiculous that we've reached the point that you and Coach Pants are now defending Obama when you both were critics of him from the beginning. I still haven't got an adequate answer from anyone as to what Obama was supposed to do about the oil spill. How is that his fault and if the biggest experts in the world were unable to stop it then how was he supposed to? And don't give me the he should have nuked it response. Amazing how in two years the right has forgotten about "drill baby drill" and now the BP situation is suddenly the fault of a Democrat.

Yeah I'm definately not impressed by Obama, but I try to base reality in my judgements.

Its pretty sad what the far right latches onto, when there are legitimate arguements to be made. I mean the birth certificate? Really??

SniperSB23 07-30-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675872)
Not only are the Eagles going to have a much better record, but they will also beat the Skins twice this year.

You guys have McNabb hyped way too much. Even the players in Philly wanted Kolb over McNabb. D-Jax didnt even like McNabb much.

Kolb has twice the accuracy that McNabb does. McNabb lost his luster after he lost the superbowl and kept getting injured. He is so 2004!

Desean Jackson won't even get 1,000 yards this year without McNabb, he'll be crying for Vick to start by Week 8.

Danzig 07-30-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 675871)
And they still are critics -- but I think that there is some ability to be level-headed and say, "look, he's doing a pretty awful job and I don't like what he's doing," while still retaining the ability to avoid hyperbole, lies, and intellectual dishonesty.

And really, there are plenty of things to be pissed off at Obama for from both the Right and Left right now, so the need to jump to those dishonest attacks (which are standard fare around here) should be entirely unnecessary because there's plenty to criticize by actually just talking about the facts -- and that's what you've seen Coach and Lori do when criticizing him and complaining about things they don't like, but they apparently still have the ability to maintain some integrity and not fly off the deep end like some others who shall remain unnamed.

:tro:

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675874)
Desean Jackson won't even get 1,000 yards this year without McNabb, he'll be crying for Vick to start by Week 8.

I would not at all be surprised to see two 1000 yard recievers on the team this year. I think Maclin is going to thrive.

Tell me, you've played football so you understand:

Is it easier to catch a pass that is thrown in your hands while you are still in full stride?

Or

Is it easier to catch a pass that is thrown behind you, so you have to slow down or stop your stride, or thrown too low so you have to dive for said catch?

Thats the main difference between #5 & #4.

Another big difference is attitude. Kolb is all business and camp with him at the leadership position is much more focused and intense. McNabb is a joker and a non-leader.

Danzig 07-30-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675867)
Really though I think it is pretty sad that the far right has gotten so ridiculous that we've reached the point that you and Coach Pants are now defending Obama when you both were critics of him from the beginning. I still haven't got an adequate answer from anyone as to what Obama was supposed to do about the oil spill. How is that his fault and if the biggest experts in the world were unable to stop it then how was he supposed to? And don't give me the he should have nuked it response. Amazing how in two years the right has forgotten about "drill baby drill" and now the BP situation is suddenly the fault of a Democrat.

i don't think criticism about the oil spill is valid. criticism of him and things he has control over are valid, and there are seemingly plenty of things to fault him for in that regard. what coach is saying is that the problems obama took over were huge, and that it will take huge effort to overcome them. eight years of mistakes can't be undone in a year and a half. but at this point, i think, and others do as well, that there hasn't been enough of a move made. we'll see how things go moving forward, but right now it seems we're treading water, not moving up or down.

Danzig 07-30-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675872)
Not only are the Eagles going to have a much better record, but they will also beat the Skins twice this year.

You guys have McNabb hyped way too much. Even the players in Philly wanted Kolb over McNabb. D-Jax didnt even like McNabb much.

Kolb has twice the accuracy that McNabb does. McNabb lost his luster after he lost the superbowl and kept getting injured. He is so 2004!


i really, really hope you're wrong!! :D

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675874)
Desean Jackson won't even get 1,000 yards this year without McNabb, he'll be crying for Vick to start by Week 8.

I'm sure Jackson was very disappointed with the 10 catches, 250 yards and 2 touchdowns he had last year in the 2 starts Kolb had.

Also Celek had 3 100 yard performances last year.. 2 of them came in Kolbs 2 games.

Kolb > McNabb or the eagles would not have traded McNabb to a division rival. Its really that simple.

miraja2 07-30-2010 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675877)
I would not at all be surprised to see two 1000 yard recievers on the team this year. I think Maclin is going to thrive.

Tell me, you've played football so you understand:

Is it easier to catch a pass that is thrown in your hands while you are still in full stride?

Or

Is it easier to catch a pass that is thrown behind you, so you have to slow down or stop your stride, or thrown too low so you have to dive for said catch?

Thats the main difference between #5 & #4.

Another big difference is attitude. Kolb is all business and camp with him at the leadership position is much more focused and intense. McNabb is a joker and a non-leader.

:tro::):tro:

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 675881)
i really, really hope you're wrong!! :D

well you have a good coach. McNabb may not be much more than Cambell was to be honest. Lack of O-line will be really interesting for a QB who gets injured often. & Dont expect any 4th quarter comebacks & effective 2 minute drills.

Haynesworth is causing too much of a distraction. & Dan Snyder still does own the team.

Good luck, but it might be wiser to travel for Caps games instead of Skins games!

Coach Pants 07-30-2010 11:28 AM

I would like to see Obama bring back the draft. If he's going to be a war monger then he needs to wake the American people up to what's going on around them.

Plus it would slash the unemployment numbers. :D

joeydb 07-30-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675889)
well you have a good coach. McNabb may not be much more than Cambell was to be honest. Lack of O-line will be really interesting for a QB who gets injured often. & Dont expect any 4th quarter comebacks & effective 2 minute drills.

Haynesworth is causing too much of a distraction. & Dan Snyder still does own the team.

Good luck, but it might be wiser to travel for Caps games instead of Skins games!


GO EAGLES!! :D

SniperSB23 07-30-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675877)
I would not at all be surprised to see two 1000 yard recievers on the team this year. I think Maclin is going to thrive.

Tell me, you've played football so you understand:

Is it easier to catch a pass that is thrown in your hands while you are still in full stride?

Or

Is it easier to catch a pass that is thrown behind you, so you have to slow down or stop your stride, or thrown too low so you have to dive for said catch?

Thats the main difference between #5 & #4.

Another big difference is attitude. Kolb is all business and camp with him at the leadership position is much more focused and intense. McNabb is a joker and a non-leader.

You don't even know how badly you are underrating McNabb and overrating Kolb. 4 TDs to 7 INTs in his career is pretty super. Kolb has had one good game ever and it was home against a horrendous Chiefs team that would have struggled to win the UFL.

GBBob 07-30-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 675886)
I'm sure Jackson was very disappointed with the 10 catches, 250 yards and 2 touchdowns he had last year in the 2 starts Kolb had.

Also Celek had 3 100 yard performances last year.. 2 of them came in Kolbs 2 games.

Kolb > McNabb or the eagles would not have traded McNabb to a division rival. Its really that simple.

Opening Day..Packers-Eagles...I smell a bet Lori

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23 (Post 675908)
You don't even know how badly you are underrating McNabb and overrating Kolb. 4 TDs to 7 INTs in his career is pretty super. Kolb has had one good game ever and it was home against a horrendous Chiefs team that would have struggled to win the UFL.

Honestly I could be overrating Kolb. But I am definately not underrating McNabb. I've watched basically every single one of McNabbs starts, except one year when I was in Ireland & had to read about them. McNabb from 99-2005 was a completely different QB than he has been since. He is a shell of his formal self, and that occured because of his injuries and decision to become a pocked QB & not a mobile QB. I trust my opinion of him, which happens to be the same opinion his former teammates have of him, over your's buddy. :)

I'm very excited about Kolb and I believe he will be an Aaron Rodgers type. Even if he's not outstanding his first year (which I think he can be), he will show lots of promise and he's our future.

Antitrust32 07-30-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 675916)
Opening Day..Packers-Eagles...I smell a bet Lori

no doubt Bob!

I cant wait for that game...

Eagles will be wearing their throwback Kelly Green uniforms too!


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