The only part that is incorrect about this statement is "useless"

But using her to pump up Zenyatta's dirt race is useless.


And here I thought that everyone knew Ginger Punch was just a okay horse who took advantage of terrible competition. She was nothing special.

Oh, if you had some sound competent handicapping on this, then I wouldn't write a thing. QR twirls badly on a dirt track that isn't sheetrock. That, right there, is probably gunna get him beat going 10f against her. All signs point to this horse loving Gulfstream like a ho loved Dangerfields fat wallet in his later years. You see fit to ignore those two items. Oaklawn n'Churchill aren't G Stream. You're gunna keep going back to figures on a track he adores, and a figure earned when he tired going 10f at Belmont. That's the worst 110 Beyer the guy has ever given out. If you would say Rachel is gunna beat Z(especially if it's less than 10f,) then I wouldn't argue it. You're arguing that Z would lose to QR going 10F (while running on a non-Gulfstream surface.) There's no reason to think that's going to happen. Gulfstream is a fake speed trainers paradise. If it wasn't, then Pletcher wouldn't be looking at the ground after almost every K Derby.

You're making the same mistake they made before the B.C.(she's too slow..can't compete on figures.) She enjoyed the surface at OAK. That's the important thing.

Listen (Narcissist Adjacent) I wasn't specifically referring to you. The "not fast enough argument" was the main argument her detractors used before the B.C. So, you've now moved over to the "not fast enough argument," and it's all based on Andy's Bias Figures. She has shown that she'll run the figure required. Stop messing with this bitch. She will own you.

No need to have a meltdown.

I didn't mean to mess with you ... for that I'm sorry oh Queen Dark Meat Enthusiast

If somehow, someway, a 6 year old mare beats a 4year old colt who cranks out 122 beyers where would she rank, ya know, one spot ahead of peppers pride?

#1 in Mikey's heart!!!!


Mikey Smith!!!! YAY!!!!! :{>:

So the late November track he debuted on at Aqueduct was sheetrock? As was the track he set a track record over in the Amsterdam at Saratoga?

NT

Only the great ones don't twirl the lasso on every surface they run.

I'm speaking of horses like Citation, Big Red, Spectacular Bid, and Yankee Bravo.

I haven't watched the maiden race. He's twirling in the stretch of the sprint win at Toga. It's not as big an issue on a really fast track, or around one turn. Sidney's Candy looked good on a soft lead over a very fast track on Monday. Still, he was twirling. That will be an issue going 2 turns for him on a track that's not that fast. Sadler should try to find the fastest track possible for him, and then hope the track is favoring speed on Derby Day.