Its only the second week of June.... Go Sox's !

0-7 against boston , can't win a game in fenway , not good yankee fans

Taiwan's most famous person not having the best of seasons so far...

Those 3 games explain exactly why I don't think Tex is worth 20 mil. When he's in a playoff-type situation, he can't beat quality pitching. Sure, he gets some hits, but here we are again with 1 RBI for the series with Boston. Looks like a good regular season hitter(like his buddy playing 3rd base.)

Once again he wasn't the reason that they lost. It all comes down to pitching. Burnett wasn't good in game one, but honestly it didn't matter cause they weren't touching Beckett. Wang was horrendous, then they get a great effort from CC and then crap the bed late. They need to upgrade the pen or at least put Joba back in it. Boston's pen is head and shoulders above the Yanks. And it all comes down to pitching.
As far as Tex goes, no one was saying anything when he went on that torrid streak, including 4-5 the other night. He takes an o-fer (in a game that they should have won) and all of a sudden everyones back out of the closet.

that was good , but , in the 9th against Peplebpon he came up empty 2 nights in a row with his team down 1 run - granted he hit the ball harddlast night in the final out , but , i'm beginning to think scuds is more and more right

tex may well win the MVP this year and the yanks may still go on and win the division , but, has he shown anyone here that he is a $20mm difference maker against the chief rival - no i don't think he has and until he does in a big spot with the game on the line and WINS or TIES a game in a big spot why should any of us think it's going to change in Oct?

So Arods 2 out 2 run double in the 7th with the game tied was not a clutch hit? Was it his fault the pitching could not hold the lead?

no arod came through last night - what scuds overall message is about is basically giving away large contracts to guys (a-rod and tex ) who are great stat pilers (lots of hr's and rbi's) but not necessiarly gamers or difference makers

Right now as a yankee fan i can't point to anything either 1 of these 2 guys has done in a big spot with all the pressure on the line , the palyoffs to justify that they are worth the $$$ they were signed for - Arod has been a total bust in the playoffs , Tex has not had his chance yet so we will see on him

A-rod carried the team 2 yrs ago in may and june and helped get the yanks to the playoffs, they wouldn't have reached the playoffs if it weren't for him .....but then he had to bat 8th ---a $25mm player had to be put 8th in the lineup - think about that for a second and realize what scuds is saying

Reggie Jackson may not have the same numbers as A-Rod , but , he was already a proven difference maker when he was signed by the yankees in 1977 from baltimore.
He brought in the big stick and there were bumps with munson and nettles .....but he was a difference maker w/o him they may not have won it all in '77 and 78. Could any yankee fan ever possibly see Reggie Jackson batting 8th in the playoffs??? He was worth every penny ....until otherwise noted A-rod and tex are overpaid stat pilers - the only thing that matters in the Bronx is rings , that's it nothing else

not to disagree with you , but joe had to bring this guy back in baby steps - hughes s/b starting right now , look at who the yankees play next couple of weeks after the mets - wang could have been held back to the nationals series , there was no need to send out a "project" into the toughest building in baseball to pitch/win over the last 5 yrs

Hughes should go into the rotation and Joba should go to the pen. I really don't know why they are so dead set on starting Joba. They have a hole in the bridge to Mariano. If Joba's the 8th inning guy, he probably starts the 8th last night. Girardi has no confidence in anyone besides Mariano out there. Put it this way, if they were to lose Mariano for the rest of the year, you would have to be crazy to think that Joba wouldn't be closing games the next day.

As far as the cluchness of ceratin players, I'm done arguing about it now. We will see down the stretch who's worth the dough they get (for the record I think that they are all grossly overpaid, it's a damn game for cryin out loud!). But in my opinion the pitching has been and still is the biggest problem.

So why are you and the "baseball know it all" bringing up their "failures" to deliver in April, May and June if the only thing that matters is what they do in the playoffs in October?

Make up your minds.

I completely agree. When CC was lifted last night it was the perfect time for Joba (if available) and Aceves had no business being in that situation.

NT

[quote=MaTH716]Hughes should go into the rotation and Joba should go to the pen. I really don't know why they are so dead set on starting Joba. They have a hole in the bridge to Mariano. If Joba's the 8th inning guy, he probably starts the 8th last night. Girardi has no confidence in anyone besides Mariano out there. Put it this way, if they were to lose Mariano for the rest of the year, you would have to be crazy to think that Joba would be closing games the next day.

As far as the cluchness of ceratin players, I'm done arguing about it now. We will see down the stretch who's worth the dough they get (for the record I think that they are all grossly overpaid, it's a damn game for cryin out loud!). But in my opinion the pitching has been and still is the biggest problem.[/QUOTE]

i tend to agree with you on that , but, last night's game - although only 1 out of 162 games had extra meaning - the yanks were playing to get back in 1st place , they were playing to WIN a game against a team that they haven't beaten all year and now won't see for 2 months---they might go on a tear here and take back the division , but , when aug/spet rolls around we will be back in this circus about the 0-8 against boston .... not something joe or the players want to have to deal with , but they are going to have to deal with it.
against the #5 starter on boston we didn't do much offensivly - we should be able to knock him out of the game , we should score more runs agianst this pig , we can clearly see the bullpen failures , i see the lack of run production against a bum , anyway you cut this one it's not good the #5 starter for boston started a game that his team won over the #1 starter on our team - this is not supposed to happen when there are 2 $20mm players batting 3 and 4th and they go a combined 1/8 last night- neither one of these $20+mm players got a hit off this pig Penny

these games against the red sox , although they count the same as a game against KC , have a playoff flaovr to them a different level of intensity .... we are seeing the yanks fail against a team they most likely will face in the palyoffs

what does it matter when tex or a-rod hit 2 hrs in a game over seattle or houston that they win 14-3? it matters in the win column and get them closer to the playoffs , but , it don't mean they are going to do it when the marbles are on the line ....and the red sox games are at least a good indication of what we are going to face in oct....you won't hear from me much about the yanks until the next boston series , i'm sure tex and a-rod will light it up over the next 8 weeks and the yanks will go 30-18 or something like that

No offense but you are absolutely clueless. I'm done.

where was it in game 1 against Beckett?

game 2 - it was there in spots

game 3 - tell me penny is supposed to go 6 and only give up 1 run , you tell me that is what the offense is supposed to do against this bum and i will go away - 1 run against brad f*en penny

I wonder if there is a stat out there that shows production relative to pitching quality for a hitter.

There have been plenty of hitters that have great year end stats but i always wonder if they get their stats against the 3,4,5 pitchers vs. the 1,2. Does that make any sense?

you know there are 30 teams now in baseball , but, there are not 150 quality pitchers in the majors --- this will tend to lead to stat inflation in my opinion as the lambs get sent out every 4th and 5th day

It does make sense but would be really hard to figure. i would assume that virtually every player hits the lesser pitchers better than the better ones. But wins against lesser pitchers count the same as the better ones.