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randallscott35 04-06-2009 12:21 PM

Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

gales0678 04-06-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...


fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

Coach Pants 04-06-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

No one s/b allowed in the detention barn from the connections , its defeating the purposes or at the very least can't NYRA put a screener in place just like at the airport - how mullins is able to get in there with what he had is just a disater


gales0678 04-06-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Mullins simply missed the "No Syringes" sign on the way into the detention barn. No biggie.

somehow i think the only sign there is the one that points you to the Belt Pkwy

Travis Stone 04-06-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.

dellinger63 04-06-2009 12:25 PM

NYRA should put casino styled cameras in (pretty damn cheap these days) and put the feed online. Suspicious activities could be flagged and tapes could be reviewed. If they can spot someone switching dice or palming cards they can spot a syringe. Of course this will NEVER happen.

MaTH716 04-06-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
fine have a gurad strip search any trainer / groom that has to go in the DB

don't tell me nyra can't do that or afford that , we do it at all the airports in this country

Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.

-BT- 04-06-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants


no way a man with that face could be a cheat, i find it hard to believe.

the horse was just thirsty and wanted a malted drink, whats the deal here?

-bt-

gales0678 04-06-2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I've never been strip searched at security in any airport.


that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through

gales0678 04-06-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Am I missing something, or didn't the current system work? They got Mullins and the horse scratched.

he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point

asudevil 04-06-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

"Macho Macho Man, I've got to be a Macho Man"

Travis Stone 04-06-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
that's cuse you haven't been picked , they can't do it to everyone

but some people are asked to step into a room with their bag/s , they ain't going for coffe with the TSA

at least a body search could be done by a guard , the syringe would never have gotten through

I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.

gales0678 04-06-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I've been picked. They've gone through my bag, but never strip searched. When they found out I was a poster on Derby Trail, I had to give blood, a fingernail and one of the last few strands of hair left on my head. The guard wanted my Racing Form, I told him that was the one thing I wasn't giving up and he understood.

The system worked, they caught him, not sure what the complaint is.


see above - he shouldn't be able to walk in the front door is my point

MaTH716 04-06-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
he (mullins) never should have gotten in in the 1st place , that is my point

I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.

jwkniska 04-06-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
NYRA should put casino styled cameras in (pretty damn cheap these days) and put the feed online. Suspicious activities could be flagged and tapes could be reviewed. If they can spot someone switching dice or palming cards they can spot a syringe. Of course this will NEVER happen.

It makes sense... so there's no way it'll ever happen.

gales0678 04-06-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I think the connections have every right to check on their horses that are stuck in the detention barn for 6 hours. Unfortunately there are people in this world that want/have to cheat. And you could make every security upgrade to the barns that you want, but if they really want to cheat they will find a way.

agree with the right to check , but why not allow a NYRA gurad to search you and the groom before you go in ??

chuck you are a trainer how would you feel about this , how could it not help?

sumitas 04-06-2009 12:43 PM

I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull duggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .

gales0678 04-06-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
I guess the casino type cameras would be most effective . Guards can be bought . After all , much of the skull guggery at the casinos is by the staff, as the cameras show .


fair point - guards and cameras would be my vote

DJARUM 04-06-2009 01:01 PM

I seem to remember NYRA was highly criticized for the idea of a detention barn.
How many tracks besides NYRA tracks have detention barns, anybody know?

DerbyCat 04-06-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJARUM
I seem to remember NYRA was highly criticized for the idea of a detention barn.
How many tracks besides NYRA tracks have detention barns, anybody know?


Golden Gate Fields has one...


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