Bravo! I think this is the book I read in my freshman year at Marlboro College. It's not that big, so should be easy enough to get through.(I think I only read parts of it, as I was in another world at college that first semester, getting constant bj's, party after party with home grown Afghanistan so abundant you didn't need any money)

I should be ashamed.

You were getting BJ's from Afghanistan's?

btw, before 9-11, the deadliest terrorist attack ever on u.s. soil was the bombing in oklahoma city. by a christian. tim mcveigh was raised a roman catholic.

Yeah...I'm sure McVeigh had Communion just before he drove the truck to the building......weak:eek:

and like i said above...people will pounce on any and every 'fact' that backs up their beliefs, while completely dismssing anything that doesn't-and you just completely dismissed the fact, that until 9-11, the single deadliest terror attack on american soil was by an american and a christian-not a muslim. and that, dear sir, is what's really weak.

McVeigh wasn't a practicing Catholic,imo.....so he was essentially faithless.
But he was an American..so that means you're right.

I didn't ignore it, I just don't think that it's the answer to the question.
But thanks for dropping by.....

The attack in Okalahoma might have been the most deadly , but its not like the crazy Muslims hadnt tried to blow up the Trade Center before , I think it was targeted twice that I recall and they attacked the USS Cole and our Embassy , which was all a pre-cursur to the big one when they finally got the job done in 2001. Im not saying that other people of other faiths dont blow stuff up but right now in the world most of the violence that is being commited , is being commited by radical Muslims. Ill re-state that not all Muslims are doing it but all Muslims are culpable for what they let go on from the government right down to the farmers , the radicals have installed so much fear that even their own people wont make a stand and that is sad.

i had a couple of points really...one is that a person will do what they will regardless of religion.
another point is that perception is reality to most. there are all sorts of fringe groups who 'believe' different things, but what it all boils down to is that they are criminals who seek to rationalize what they do.
terrorists don't commit crimes of terror for god, they use that to excuse it. if they didn't believe in god, they'd still blow crap up everyday.
my other point was, people didn't automatically make a correlation between mcveigh and his religion, but people automatically make that connection when it's a muslim.
i don't recall this sort of mentality when it was the ira vs the brits.

I'm impressed you remember :p

"Muslims" did not try to blow up the Trade Center before.

"Terrorists" tried to blow up the Trade Center before.

Sorry, those words simply are not equivalent.

:tro:

I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out one more thing that you are wrong about in this thread.
The entire premise for this thread is obvioulsy completely nonsensical, but given that Hossy, Spencer, and now Danzig, have done a fine job of taking up the banner of rational thought against you, we don't ALL really need to pile on you.
So, you can rest assured that you are completely wrong in your statement here. They are speaking for more than just themselves.

Oh really , uhm what faith were the bombers? They were Muslim look it up , dude they were warning us way before 911 , that they were going to drop those buildings one way or another.

Dude, you have completely missed the point.

Let's see ... literal ... literal ...

False: All blonde women are dumb.
False: Christianity is the most common religion in the world.
False: All Christians are racists.
False: All Muslims are terrorists.

I will take the time now to interject a little meeting shown on C-Span last night involving American Muslim Leaders asking Obama to please reign in Israel when he gets into office. They went on and on about Israel this and that, and when asked about Hamas and the role they should play to end the current conflict they had nothing to say.

Then when asked about their ties with illegal funds sent to terrorist organizations and what the investigation yielded they left the stage. It was quite revealing. I certainly hope these guys dont speak for the majority of Muslims in the US.

American Muslim Task Force

Council on American-Islamic Relations

might have to have a look at these two groups.

Do you think those men speak for 6-8 million US citizens?

well...i do know NOW (for example) doesn't speak for me...

Probably not.
But who does then?

These are fairly large vocal political Muslim groups.
Where are the counter point groups?
There are plenty of protests in Israel by Israelis concerning
the bombing. Its called a legitimate Democracy.

I wonder what happens with protests against Hamas in Gaza?
I will answer. They kill your members and shove you
over to the West Bank.