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hoovesupsideyourhead 06-13-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
If you think Admirality looked good then Unbridled's Heart looked good as well. As of now I wasn't thrilled with either effort. However, maybe Mint Lane suddenly became Big Brown II. If you don't think the track changed then his raw number is probably the highest any 3YO has run this year.

zaftig would blow his doors off... mint lane

pick4 06-13-2008 04:26 PM

I was on the phone with my boss aka "my wife", out of all the times she has to call and give me things to do it had to be when they were loading into the gate of race 3.

Unbridled's Heart had a more difficult trip than he did last month but he still could improve. The 3 year olds division is still suspect. The mistake I made was not taking a chance against him. I had the right idea last night but chickened out today.

Betting against Jimmy Jerkens at this current Belmont meet is hazardous to your bankroll.

ateamstupid 06-13-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
zaftig would blow his doors off... mint lane

Who WOULDN'T Zaftig blow the doors off of? :D

ateamstupid 06-13-2008 04:36 PM

Considering that those rats in the 6th ran a very ratlike time of 1:14.26, it doesn't appear that the track has sped up dramatically. There isn't a huge sample size, but Mint Lane's figure seems legit, IMO.

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2008 04:39 PM

It's hard to disagree. It's in the mid 100s ( 102 to 106 ).

Jimmy Jerkens's horses are certainly running very well.

ateamstupid 06-13-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's hard to disagree. It's in the mid 100s ( 102 to 106 ).

Jimmy Jerkens's horses are certainly running very well.

What would that give Unbridled's Heart then? Low 90's? Maybe he just got smacked by a horse that's better than people thought and will prove to be very good as well.

Coach Pants 06-13-2008 04:43 PM

Bottom line is we're looking at the worst crop of 3 year old colts in the history of the sport.

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2008 04:45 PM

I'm confused by Mint Lane. I guess it's about 1.8 points a length so Unbridled's Heart ran 11 or 12 points slower.

It will be interesting to see how Mint Lane runs if he ever actually gets challenged for the early lead but he has to be better than I thought he was.

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Bottom line is we're looking at the worst crop of 3 year old colts in the history of the sport.


That's not true...but whatever. Keep plugging away.

Coach Pants 06-13-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That's not true...but whatever. Keep plugging away.

Whatever.

Bobby Fischer 06-13-2008 05:01 PM

It almost looked like they rated UH back out of the gate. Like they wanted to get him to settle and drive on, except that Mint Lane didn't do any slowing down.
Haven't looked at the replays again to determine if UH broke poorly or was rated back.

ateamstupid 06-13-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
It almost looked like they rated UH back out of the gate. Like they wanted to get him to settle and drive on, except that Mint Lane didn't do any slowing down.
Haven't looked at the replays again to determine if UH broke poorly or was rated back.

He broke poorly.

Coach Pants 06-13-2008 05:17 PM

Yeah the break cost him the race.













lol

ateamstupid 06-13-2008 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Yeah the break cost him the race.













lol

Totally.

jcs11204 06-13-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Strategic Mission
I don't think that is fair to Harlem Rocker. HR might just not be a polytrack horse. Unbrideled's Heart was very green but no real excuses.

The winner might be a really nice horse, which makes me think Casino Drive might be a freaky horse. The sad thing is he might not race on dirt again this year, so we will have no idea how good he is.

casino drive is a super horse... i have been saying that for days man

hockey2315 06-13-2008 06:13 PM

Disappointing effort by U's Heart. . . I was at Belmont today but decided to leave before his race . . . glad I didn't miss anything.

the_fat_man 06-13-2008 06:27 PM

Strategic Mission GETS BENT OVER (like a bitch).................


Place Laughing my ass off SMILEY here.

pick4 06-13-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
What would that give Unbridled's Heart then? Low 90's? Maybe he just got smacked by a horse that's better than people thought and will prove to be very good as well.

The fig doesn't matter that much. It was only his second career race and he lost a race where he did not get a good trip and the winner who is a good horse had a dream trip. Mint Lane created his own trip but he's much more experienced than Unbridled's Heart. I think Unbridled's Heart will improve off this race. The Dwyer looks like a good race to make is his start unless they decide to run in a non winners of 1. If he improves and runs a good race, he can run in the Jim Dandy and the Travers.

jcs11204 06-13-2008 06:37 PM

[quote=pick4]The fig doesn't matter that much. It was only his second career race and he lost a race where he did not get a good trip and the winner who is a good horse had a dream trip. Mint Lane created his own trip but he's much more experienced than Unbridled's Heart. I think Unbridled's Heart will improve off this race. The Dwyer looks like a good race to make is his start unless they decide to run in a non winners of 1. If he improves and runs a good race, he can run in the Jim Dandy and the Travers.[/QUOTE

that would be ambitious, especially off of todays effort

Bobby Fischer 06-13-2008 06:40 PM

Good call on Admirality JSC.

He crushed my longshot, and ran a pretty nice race.


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