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Cajungator26 02-04-2008 11:00 PM


blackthroatedwind 02-04-2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I have a story to tell. One of my friends purchased a 75,000 dollar horse from a Florida sale. He was a strapping chestnut colt, a Graded Stakes caliber colt. When this colt first raced, there was some buzz about him because he broke his maiden first time out as a three year old by four lengths under a strangle hold. The jock never asked him to run, and was actually holding him back down the stretch. In his next start, he's not moving as pretty and gets beat, but finishes second. He came back with puffy ankles, and has never been the same since. The trainer is very careful with the colt, but is constantly battling the horse's puffy ankles. Yet, the colt still wins races in quite the company because of the careful management. Sometimes, in a race, he even looks back to his old self, but the front bandages tell the story. However, a lot of races, he hasn't moved as pretty as he once did. It is amazing what a little bit of rest, ice, front bandages, and joint injections will do.... However, this cycle never continues because eventually the damage becomes too severe to continue. The horse either gets turned out and, with time, gets better, or is done racing.... The most careful and talented trainers can usually get at least a couple of good races out of the horse under these conditions or can keep the horse going for awhile if the horse has plenty of time in between starts.



Wilber!!!!!!!

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-04-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Once again, I think you are confusing real life with an episode of Mr. Ed.

You're kidding right? Because if you aren't about the content of my post, if you don't think that happens all the time in horse racing, then I am seriously laughing right now!

blackthroatedwind 02-04-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
You're kidding right? Because if you aren't about the content of my post, if you don't think that happens all the time in horse racing, then I am seriously laughing right now!


I hang on your every word.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-04-2008 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I hang on your every word.

I am definitely laughing now!!! OMG....

The Indomitable DrugS 02-04-2008 11:25 PM

KyRim,

I see your new Siggy, I have two questions, why will "all know" when Rail Trip makes his debut? And, since he's a 3yo without a published workout this year, what has been the problem with getting him to the races?

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-04-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
KyRim,

I see your new Siggy, I have two questions, why will "all know" when Rail Trip makes his debut? And, since he's a 3yo without a published workout this year, what has been the problem with getting him to the races?

I don't know what is going on with him...

He is just some colt that I randomly picked out...

Based on his last workout, he doesn't look like much...

The Indomitable DrugS 02-04-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I don't know what is going on with him...

He is just some colt that I randomly picked out...

Based on his last workout, he doesn't look like much...

It seems kind of odd to me that you put - "When Rail Trip debuts all will know" as your sig .... but than an hour later you change your sig and say "he doesn't look like much."

I take that as sort of conflicting signals.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-05-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
It seems kind of odd to me that you put - "When Rail Trip debuts all will know" as your sig .... but than an hour later you change your sig and say "he doesn't look like much."

I take that as sort of conflicting signals.

According to you all, when don't I give conflicting signals?

The Indomitable DrugS 02-05-2008 12:09 AM

Says the person who claims "all will know when Rail Trip debuts!" even though "he doesn't look like much."

The Bid 02-05-2008 12:20 AM

Maybe she meant railroader?

Indian Charlie 02-05-2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I have a story to tell. . . . .

Hey, I've got a story to tell too!!

It goes a little something. . . . like this:

Here's the story of a lovely lady
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.
All of them had hair of gold, like their mother,
The youngest one in curls.

Here's the story, of a man named Brady (Tom?),
Who was busy with three boys of his own,
They were four men, living all together,
Yet they were all alone.

Till the one day when the lady met this fellow
And they knew it was much more than a hunch,
That this group would somehow form a family.
That's the way we all became the Brady Bunch.
The Brady Bunch, The Brady Bunch (Go Pats!)

That's the way we all became the Brady Bunch.
The Brady Bunch.

Coach Pants 02-05-2008 09:27 AM

Puffy Ankles sounds like a name for a fat rapper.

GPK 02-05-2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Puffy Ankles sounds like a name for a fat rapper.


Or...maybe some of those fillies and mares just have "cankles"...

Linny 02-05-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
They are racing him there because of the purse....and I don't think anybody would blame them for that.

Isn't that why all of them race?

Anyhoo, wouldn't you rather have "greedy owners" racng for big purses than "greedy owners" selling the to "spendthrift breeders" who will whisk them off the track forever?

What has not been noted is that Curlin may meet a tougher bunch of horses in his prep in Dubai that he would here. Honesty, which 4 allowance horses would be sacrified to Curlin could get legged up? A race for horses classified at 100+ is far more cometitive than beating up on Fair Grounds optional claimers this weekend.

blackthroatedwind 02-05-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
Isn't that why all of them race?

Anyhoo, wouldn't you rather have "greedy owners" racng for big purses than "greedy owners" selling the to "spendthrift breeders" who will whisk them off the track forever?

What has not been noted is that Curlin may meet a tougher bunch of horses in his prep in Dubai that he would here. Honesty, which 4 allowance horses would be sacrified to Curlin could get legged up? A race for horses classified at 100+ is far more cometitive than beating up on Fair Grounds optional claimers this weekend.


I agree.....and I wasn't knocking them for it......I was just trying to be succinct.

I have a question about the whole racing versus breeding thing with Curlin. Is it possible that Curlin is racing because there were a number of complications that made it difficult, if not impossible, for him to get a legitimate breeding deal?

Whatever the answer, I'm thrilled that he's racing, but whether relevent or not, I'm not sure this is a purely magnanimous gesture.

pmayjr 02-05-2008 02:23 PM

Guys,

You're forgetting another contendor in Dubai... if he takes to stretching out-
Asiatic Boy. I'm debating how much he's run against over there, but in the last year he's pretty much won everything with relative ease on the dirt. Here's an article on him, and be sure to read the last paragraph
http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43342

brockguy 02-05-2008 03:53 PM

I love Asiatic Boy to bits but he still has to improve alot to contend with Curlin and others.. he has the potential, but the only times hes ever faced G1 horses, he hasnt done the business (albeit on turf!)

Charismatic1 02-05-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr
Guys,

You're forgetting another contendor in Dubai... if he takes to stretching out-
Asiatic Boy. I'm debating how much he's run against over there, but in the last year he's pretty much won everything with relative ease on the dirt. Here's an article on him, and be sure to read the last paragraph
http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43342


See, I'm not crazy for suggesting this. Mhmm, yeah! Thanks Pete.

Charismatic1 02-05-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
I love Asiatic Boy to bits but he still has to improve alot to contend with Curlin and others.. he has the potential, but the only times hes ever faced G1 horses, he hasnt done the business (albeit on turf!)

His ability to beat opponents like Diabolical at a distance too short for him proves he's a completely different beast on dirt than turf. I have loads of respect for Curlin (picked him in the Classic), but on dirt, I don't think Asiatic Boy has to improve [i]a lot[i] to win the DWC. Just my observation and opinion.


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