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whodey17 12-20-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Hiding from you.

You and all the people that still owe me money--ha ha. Well it is good that you can out of hiding. Someone with your wit, charm and smarts should not be hiding.

whodey17 12-20-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I agree. And really you are too kind. And I send the warm regards back to you. Hopefully this holiday season brings you and yours nothing but joy. And if not, well that'd be okay with me as well.

The holiday season always brings me joy. For me, it isn't about me or my family-we have enough. I believe it is to help the less fortunate. So if you and your family need any help, please let me know.

whodey17 12-20-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I actually do need some help. I was wondering how I could become a know nothing idiot. Since you fit that description to a tee, I was wondering if you could give me some help. If not, is there any way you could teach me how to look into a horse's eyes and see how special they are? That would help a lot.

Well looking into the horses eye's is sort of like looking into the eyes or a person you are hiring better, the girl who sweeps you off of your feet or even looking into the eyes of someone dying. The good ones always have that special look to them. They look at you with confidence and with a sense of I am someone(thing) special. So I have helped you with understanding the non-verbal communication of eyes. As far as being a know-nothing idiot....well that will be very hard for you to learn. You are way way above that level.

freddymo 12-20-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I actually do need some help. I was wondering how I could become a know nothing idiot. Since you fit that description to a tee, I was wondering if you could give me some help. If not, is there any way you could teach me how to look into a horse's eyes and see how special they are? That would help a lot.

You really are something else

SentToStud 12-20-2007 12:47 PM

lol... Must be tired of feuding with that orangatan-avatared Tom fella over at Pace Adv.... looking for an easier spot.

freddymo 12-20-2007 12:52 PM

Dahoss is a very smart, well spoken, and a gifted handicapper. Aren't you Hossy?

whodey17 12-20-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
lol... Must be tired of feuding with that orangatan-avatared Tom fella over at Pace Adv.... looking for an easier spot.

I am easy. Nothing wrong with being easy at all. Just ask the women in DaHoss's life.

saratogabrit 12-20-2007 01:19 PM

Do the current eligibilty rules for HOF membership rule Chris Antley out of consideration until about 2025 when he could be considered by the Historic Review Committee.

fpsoxfan 12-20-2007 01:34 PM

Tis the season to be jolly.

Benny Leger 12-20-2007 03:00 PM

Ant
 
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Right, but while I'm sure that was what was being referenced, I also doubt Lukas would say Antley didn't belong in the Hall of Fame.

A while after Antley's unfortunate death, Lukas spoke out about how Antley's supposed great love for Charismatic was being, to say the least, overexagerated. He basically said if Antley cared so much about the horse how come he never even visited him between races. Say what you want....Lukas would know.


Lucas complained nearly a year after the Belmont, that Ant didn't come see how Charismatic was doing the day after the injury. What he didn't tell the reporter was that Ant flew to the West Coast the night of the Belmont Stakes and rode" Magicalmysterycat" to victory for Lucas the very next day in the Cinderella Stakes at Santa Anita. Lucas made several comments to reporters well after the Belmont race that he didn't think Ant rode Charismatic correctly that day. IMO he is still bitter about not winning the Triple Crown. Ant wasn't perfect, but there is no doubt his accomplishments on the track surely qualify him for the Hall of Fame.

blackthroatedwind 12-20-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny Leger
Lucas complained nearly a year after the Belmont, that Ant didn't come see how Charismatic was doing the day after the injury. What he didn't tell the reporter was that Ant flew to the West Coast the night of the Belmont Stakes and rode" Magicalmysterycat" to victory for Lucas the very next day in the Cinderella Stakes at Santa Anita. Lucas made several comments to reporters well after the Belmont race that he didn't think Ant rode Charismatic correctly that day. IMO he is still bitter about not winning the Triple Crown. Ant wasn't perfect, but there is no doubt his accomplishments on the track surely qualify him for the Hall of Fame.


He also talked about Antley never coming by the barn between races....I believe.

Antley gave Charismatic a horrendous ride in the Belmont. The unfortunate events after the race saved him from being murdered in the press.

whodey17 12-20-2007 03:12 PM

Did anyone watch Pat Day on Legends? Stevens ask Day about his relationship with Lukas and all Day would say is that they had a love hate relationship. He elborated a little more stating that he would hire and fire Lukas and Lukas would hire and fire him. I got the impression that Day didn't want to talk about their relationship. A very awkward part of the interview.

blackthroatedwind 12-20-2007 03:13 PM

Well, after Day's ride on North Sider at Belmont on Preakness Day of 1987 Day got an extended vacation and tongue lashing from Lukas.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-20-2007 03:20 PM

dwl is a all time great..his list of accolades speaks for itself all the other crap is just that crap..many have had horses break down. and he was very good on the minimum wgt issue for jocks... THEY STAND TO MAKE ALOT OF MONEY.....THEY SHOULD WATCH THIER WIEGHT.... from a hbo jocks whinefest re cap on hbo sports..gotta love it..

Benny Leger 12-20-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He also talked about Antley never coming by the barn between races....I believe.

Antley gave Charismatic a horrendous ride in the Belmont. The unfortunate events after the race saved him from being murdered in the press.


Lucas "Charismatic was standing there in his stall, and we didn't know if he would live or die. Now, if you cared about the horse, don't you think you would walk the twenty feet to see him? I know I would. But he just got into the back of his limousine and drove away."

Lucas said this to a reporter at the barn after the Belmont, knowing full well he was riding Magicalmysterycat for him the next day in California. I can't see in any way how Lucas was being fair to Ant when he made that statement.

whodey17 12-20-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Well, after Day's ride on North Sider at Belmont on Preakness Day of 1987 Day got an extended vacation and tongue lashing from Lukas.

Well that ride was pretty awful and the "vacation" was well warranted.

Say what you want about DWL, but he has go down as true pioneer in training. You don't win championships in Quarter Horse and thoroughbreds by accident. He is a great horseman and demands perfection from everyone he employs.


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