We luckily handled De'Cody if that is who you are referring too. I wouldn't worry, I think 'Bama will beat the Noles...

The Derby Trail Country Club.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Its tough to keep arguing the inablility to finish or continual lucky trips of a horse that has won the BC Juvi, TBD, Kentucky Derby, Jim Dandy, and Travers. Not to mention the races he has finished a close second in...

I will give you, he has yet to prove he is one of the best horses ever, however, he is a dominent horse this year, and will be a major factor in every race he breaks from the gate in.

If you like others better, fine. To minify a horse who has proven he can compete with, and best, most all those who callenge him is just wrong.

Uh oh. Stop it, DrugS. This is getting serious.

Man, I need to get some water...

I just read what I wrote, and realized most of it is unreadable..lol

Drugs and I can agree to disagree on SS...

i picked up a new word, minify.

Too bad I did not use "give comeuppance."

Hoss..which reminds me your dues are overdue..please make arrangement for direct deposit into my account..I think you owe $1500 :D

that works too, going to have to take a break now though. 2 words in a day is about my limit. i need a nap now.

Maybe we can use it as a secret password for "the club."

I have to say, i am FAR from convinced with Street Sense and in my opinion i don't think he has a hope of winning the Classic.

In my opinion he has reached as high he is going to get and could be on the downward spiral now. How anyone can say he didn't act on the Poly is beyond me. If a horse doesn't act on a surface they are beaten at the gates, simple. He acted on the poly, but he didn't battle close to the wire.

I know there was a slow pace, i know Hard Spun got an uncontested lead, but why? SS was more than capable to challenge HS early without taking much out of him.

It was the fact that Borel really got serious with SS and he found almost nil when under pressure.

We know he loves coming from a mile back and passing beaten horses in his races. That will be very difficult to do at a place like Monmouth and i can already see Boral getting slaughtered for the ride he will give on October 27th.

i am hoping that many involved in the classic will think that street sense could have put pressure on hard spun, but chose not to since he had bigger fish to fry, and that hard spun will come back to them with the added distance.
and then i hope hard spun wins by a country mile.

My thoughts also.

Suppose they decided to take HS from well off the pace in the Classic..would everyone not say they took him out of his best game? Well isn't that exactly what SS has been asked to do his last two races? Race on the pace when his best game is from well off the pace... and yet he won and finished a close second.

Both are good horses and it should make for a great Classic..may the best horse win..but probably some obscure longshot will win in a head scratcher!

Good horses should be capable of winning races from any sort of position given luck in running. I don't like the fact that so many of the "top" American horses HAVE to be ridden in a certain way if they are going to perform at their best.

I like tactical races, as most of our races are tactical, and i'm pretty sure that (even though SS might be best when closing) Borel would have been murdered by the media over here for giving Hard Spun such an easy lead. Whether it was a prep or whatever, i thought the ride was dreadful if i'm honest. He got within half a length early on....... how much more would it have taken out of him to make HS go one or two strides faster, even if it was just for a furlong or two?

One thing is for sure, SS won't have an easy time closing in the classic.

As Danzig said, i've got a funny feeling that everyone will give HS an uncontested lead, just assuming he will come back to them over 10furlongs. There is every chance that he will steal it from the front and leave everyone else looking rather stupid.

Boy..that scenario never happen before when HS faced more than a limited # of starters. He had plenty of company upfront..I find it hard to believe that is how it will play out in the Classic.

But PEACE..understand your point of view.

Hard Spun isn't bothered by cheap company and his ideal cruising speed is more of a time thing than a positional thing.


Cruising Speed" 111 - 112 The 6furlong goal for Hard Spun in a classic distance route regardless of position.(LanesEnd,Derby,Haskell,Kycup)

Cursing Speed: 109 or 115. :confused: :mad: Unexpected fractions that incite the handicapper to start shaking fist and cursing the jockey. (Preakness, Belmont)