nope.

new code of conduct came out this year.
also, not as tho vick has never had any other issues.

you have ron mexico, aka middle finger flipper at his own fans, aka fake water bottle with hidden compartment that smelled of pot (everyone is aware that drug testing takes place only during the season, right--and that incident was in the off season), aka liar to the commish, dog fighter, gambler, dog killler, bankroller of an ongoing criminal enterprise godfather vick. he's thru.

the ones who sicken me now aren't vick, it's those leaping to his defense, when what he has done is indefensible. he's a sick, twisted, perverted human being. two or three years from now, the next big things will be out. he'll get some press when he gets out, and he'll fade away like maurice clarett--that name ring a bell?

i see a guy below this post said this was ridiculous. no, it's not.
vick wasn't even in the top 20 in passer rating last year. even that old fart mark brunell had better numbers. i believe i heard he was at 52%....oh yeah, what a QB!!

he was a personality, a show, not a future hall of fame QB. not even close.

Yep! I understand the Afro-Ameican community remains distrustful of the legal system (with VERY good reason) but this isn't about color, this is about a soul-less coward commiting ungodly acts of cruelty...Kobe was treated differently as was Ray Lewis although speculation revolved concerning more serious crimes because the case against both was always questionable, certainly they should have had their day in court before any action by their leagues, I have said from the beginning that Vick deserved the same...well, Kobe's case was dismissed, it turned out there was no real evidence against Lewis....justice appears to have prevailed. Vick's case has always been hard to ignore because of the known evidence, then the sickening admissions by his "posse"...now, he appears willing to admit what kind of a human being he is...case closed as should be his pro career!

Question. Does anyone know how this would be treated if it had happened in one of the two states that this was not a felony?

Since the Feds have charged him, I don't see that it would be any different! The state Attorney General has yet to file state charges and probably won't. He crossed state lines and may even have organized crime involvement...wouldn't matter if he lived in Siberia! (joking).

hmmm

maybe you should be vicks lawyer. that would be a hell of a defense. but judge, it's not a felony everywhere. i don't think it's fair that my client was charged since he committed these crimes in the wrong state.


wtf does that have to do with anything? he's a criminal, having committed these crimes for about six years. ever since he was able to afford his very own illegal dog fighting operation. how proud everyone must be of him. i mean, of all the avenues available to him--he chose this one. what a great human being.:rolleyes:

i read yesterday that the state intends to press charges now and that they carry more than 5 yrs. IF that is the case, then his nfl career is over.
as it should be.

He was doing a really poor job of running the West Coast offense. They were not getting any better as a team offensively and Vick certainly was not improving at QB.
He was supposed to be the new breed of QB, the runner passer. It just did not work out as planned. And it was not going to work with the offense he was using.

Read articles about Vince Young and what kind of QB they wanted him to be and it was all, "be like McNair, not like Vick". McNair learned to play in the pocket. Vick still had not got it. This was all BEFORE the incident.

Sorry to inject the actual football side in what was a thread on deeds and punishment.

I'm going to challenge u. Find one post where I have said he's innocent, just ONE........and I'll leave this forum forever. I'm sure u can read Danzig. I said it was a QUESTION. I didn't know the answer and I was asking if anyone did. How about u provide me a list of questions that are suitable to u that I can ask. That would help me in my quest to please u.

oh don't be ridiculous. has nothing to do with whether you thought he was guilty, my opinion is that most hypothetical questions are silly and meaningless. but ask away, i'm certainly not any judge and jury. post what you want, i'll do the same.

The Atlanta Chapter of the NAACP says Vick should be allowed to play again after his rehabilitation. Stephon Marbury sees nothing wrong with dog fighting. Says its a sport just like hunting. Here it comes.


Meanwhile... 50 dogs owned by Vick will most likely be euthanized. They are the culled killers that are too dangerous to be kept.

It's a sad thing, but I understand why... :(

NAACP, ah this orginization is so messed up, does anyone actually listen anymore? They were all over the duke case and already had them convicted before all the evidence came out. Now we have vick who pleaded guilty and heres somebody saying he really didn't do anything wrong per se, he was just trying to limit his jail time because he was being railroaded by his friends. Vick pleaded guilty(I.E HE DID IT) and this guy wants us to be patient... He goes on to say that its sad that he pleaded guilty because now the true facts will probably never come to light.... Honestly can we just stop the blind trust here with the naacp.Just because he is a high profile black athlete does not mean they should feel obligated to defend him.

I think he plans to help OJ find the real killers after he gets out of jail.

Just listened to a sports radio talk show driving home from work. Plenty of callers that were quite obviously African American were saying Vick is being punished because white America loves dogs more than people...

Its going racial. I had a feeling.

Of course... it always seems to. I wish people could understand that sometimes it's NOT about race. In fact, most of the time it's not about race. It makes me sick...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ge=hill/070821

an excellent article, please read it.

i first heard about it while listening to the jim rome show, and this is the first chance i have had to read it.

No way....this card is pulled so often that noone even takes it seriously anymore.