Originally Posted by philcski

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

Originally Posted by witchdoctor

Wonder if that what the owners of Ruffian were thinking in her match race with Foolish pleasure?

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Exactly...Silverbulletday was considered equal to or superior to the 3yo colts, she tried the 1999 Belmont went off at 5-1 and finished a tired 7th! She had a good turn of speed and set the pace without being challenged...

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Somer stop being such a wuss. It seems racing can't make anyone happy. If horses dodge one another, we cry about not getting to see the matchups we want. Then ,if someone does something "sporting" (good word for it Cannon)you're already calling them dumb for trying.

She can clearly beat the fillies without a top effort. Racing doesn't need another filly who picks her spots to retire with a nearly pristine record (Azeri, Ashado, etc), they need something over the top. A big G1 win by a filly over males would be a huge boost to the sport. Either way, if she runs, I'll actually be rooting for Pletcher. I can't believe I just said that.

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Exactly...Silverbulletday was considered equal to or superior to the 3yo colts, she tried the 1999 Belmont went off at 5-1 and finished a tired 7th! She had a good turn of speed and set the pace without being challenged...

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think that this is a pretty weak group of colts and very few have breeding that suggests that they will relish the distance. She has enough speed to get the right trip and will catch the best colts coming off of 2 hard efforts and coming back on short rest. If she loses then she can resume beating up on fillies in the Test/Alabama. Plus Pletcher will make his other owners happy by getting Octave a grade 1 win in the Acorn or Mother Goose without having to mess with Rags.

Originally Posted by witchdoctor

Wonder if that what the owners of Ruffian were thinking in her match race with Foolish pleasure?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you think her leg broke because she was racing against a colt?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Her broodmare value is moot because there is only one guy who could afford her now other than her current owners and there is zero chance that Tabor and co. would let him have her.

But it would be a historic win if she won

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How did it hurt her?

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I heard the lads will be offering her to the sheikhs at the end of the season as a peace offering:D

Originally Posted by philcski

Wow, this group did a lot of running. :rolleyes:
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I don't know, you'd have to ask her! Seriously though, I think SBD was a good example of a filly that many thought was better than the colts (Charismatic was not that highly regarded going into the Derby) so her 7th place finish is an example of a top filly going against colts. I agree the breeding is different (SBD vs Rags), but the Belmont has a history of favoring speed types.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The question still hasn't been answered of where a better spot to try colts would be.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ohio Derby

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Breeding wise it is hard to imagine Silverbulletday was better suited to the Belmont than Rags to Riches.

Silverbulletday, while an extremely nice filly, beat up on a lot of subpar fillies in the spring of '99. In the Belmont that year there was a pretty decent cast of characters, including Charismatic bidding for the Triple Crown. That was a fast running of the race and clearly Silverbulletday wanted no part of 1 1/2 miles.

NT

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

No way.. Birdbirdistheword might show up there.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.