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Swale84 03-07-2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

I think Cordero belongs somewhere on a top ten list

pgardn 03-07-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

I went thru the whole list and I did not see Eddie Arcaro and I almost passed out and then... yes. But I am putting Shoemaker down further.

Bold Reasoning 03-07-2007 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave
I would include Braulio Baeza & Angel Cordero Jr. on my short list of great jocks.

Anybody remember Robyn C Smith...she might have been one of the best looking..and she got a few mounts from AG Vanderbilt..

I remember her; I think she married Fred Astaire. My alltime favorite jockey, the one I consider best, is Angel Cordero, Jr.

Cannon Shell 03-07-2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

No Lester Piggott?

Thoroughbred Fan 03-07-2007 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan


You are from NY and made a list of ten midgets and no Cordero.....Shame on you, I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

Kasept 03-07-2007 01:21 PM

I had Cordero on there but he got squeezed out by Tod Sloan... who was a much better dresser than Angel.

11. Angel Cordero
12. Jacinto Vasquez
13. Johnny Longden
14. Jorge Velasquez
15. Manny Ycaza
16. George Wolff
17. Braulio Baeza
18. Gary Stevens
19. Snapper Garrison
20. Pat Day

Payson Dave 03-07-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning
I remember her; I think she married Fred Astaire. My alltime favorite jockey, the one I consider best, is Angel Cordero, Jr.

Yes she did...he was 55 years older than her....
1973 North Sea (4) 117 1:33 3/5 Alfred G. Vanderbilt Robert P. Lake Robyn C. Smith
I think she was the first female jockey to win a major race in the US...

She use to rent a house in my neighborhood for the Saratoga Meets in the early 70's
Other August residents that rented in that same neighborhood included Mack Miller, Braulio Baeza, & Leroy Jolley.

Obviously she does not belong on a list of top jockeys ever...

avance2000 03-07-2007 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

as usual we had to read through pages of nonsense where posters acted like the world began in 1980, until kasept brought some sanity to the thread.
this is not a subjective question.
there is a RIGHT answer.
that answer is eddie arcaro.

ARyan 03-07-2007 02:27 PM

The world didn't begin in 1980???

Says who? ;)

Cannon Shell 03-07-2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
I had Cordero on there but he got squeezed out by Tod Sloan... who was a much better dresser than Angel.

11. Angel Cordero
12. Jacinto Vasquez
13. Johnny Longden
14. Jorge Velasquez
15. Manny Ycaza
16. George Wolff
17. Braulio Baeza
18. Gary Stevens
19. Snapper Garrison
20. Pat Day

Still no Lester Piggott or Freddie Head?

Linny 03-07-2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
I had Cordero on there but he got squeezed out by Tod Sloan... who was a much better dresser than Angel.

11. Angel Cordero
12. Jacinto Vasquez
13. Johnny Longden
14. Jorge Velasquez
15. Manny Ycaza
16. George Wolff
17. Braulio Baeza
18. Gary Stevens
19. Snapper Garrison
20. Pat Day


You have Jacinto Vasquez in front of Longden? Oh, the humanity...

Cajungator26 03-07-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARyan
The world didn't begin in 1980???

Says who? ;)

It did for me. ;)

ArlJim78 03-07-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. Eddie Arcaro
2. Willie Shoemaker
3. Issac Murphy
4. Laffit Pincay
5. Chris McCarron
6. Jerry Bailey
7. Earl Sande
8. Bill Hartak
9. Steve Cauthen
10. Tod Sloan

anyone else have to google Tod Sloan? I had never heard that one.

read his bio in wikipedia, very interesting fellow.

here is the link, I would suggest reading it if you don't know the guy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tod_Sloan_(jockey)

Indian Charlie 03-07-2007 04:49 PM

corey black

Kasept 03-07-2007 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Still no Lester Piggott or Freddie Head?

21. Jimmy Winkfield
22. Bobby Ussery
23. Johnny Loftus
24. Eddie Delahoussaye
25. Willie Simms
26. Charley Kurtsinger
27. Ted Atkinson
28. Conn McCreary
29. Eric Guerin
30. Ron Turcotte

brockguy 03-07-2007 05:25 PM

Theres a brilliant book on him Yankee Doodle Dandy...good read, super jockey!


Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
anyone else have to google Tod Sloan? I had never heard that one.

read his bio in wikipedia, very interesting fellow.

here is the link, I would suggest reading it if you don't know the guy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tod_Sloan_(jockey)


Cannon Shell 03-07-2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
21. Jimmy Winkfield
22. Bobby Ussery
23. Johnny Loftus
24. Eddie Delahoussaye
25. Willie Simms
26. Charley Kurtsinger
27. Ted Atkinson
28. Conn McCreary
29. Eric Guerin
30. Ron Turcotte

G.R Carter? the jockey not the catcher.
Don Brumfield?

alysheba4 03-07-2007 07:12 PM

rudy campos........ no, chris mccarron , pincay , cordero , the shoe.


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