His running style forced him to get into the money. The kid was right on. That field was left in the wake of a very nice horse, and Jazil running second is basically an also ran IMO. By no means is that a good second getting pasted by 10

listen it is my opinion that jazil does stink...
you dont have to agree with me i respect everyones opinion on this site, and i never say anything rude about anyone

Was he in the exacta or not?

This is crazy. If this were anyone else on here who won this kind of money, confetti would be thrown. So he said Jazil wouldnt make the exacta, who cares? He bet $345 to win on him.

Kudos and nice to see Corinthian back in the Winners Circle. Yaaaay!

Jazil has been, is, and always will be a dog-biscuit.

He makes Giacomo look like Spectacular Bid.

yeah he was in the exacta, but he still STINKS HE GOT BEAT BYE 10.......
im not arguing about this im only 21, i dont make much money, and go to school full time, im excited about my score, 2-1 was a gift today.

lol what buffy you couldnt come up with that all on your own? anyways nobody ever said ats was going to win the TC. nobody said ats was the greatest thing since sliced bread like empire faker was made out to be. EM only finished a head infront of him in the derby after that brutal trip he recieved so i guess em is a piece of crap as well to you lar. RIP ATS! since man among men beat empire faker, i guess id have to put my money on zippy chippy against him if they hada match race:)

McLaughlin ran him twice. Once going 6 f and once going 1 mile. Paired 62 beyers. You know what happened after that.

Whatever dude! Just saying if you had seen his FL Derby win in person, you wouldn't be bashing the horse.

And uh..... Didn't EM run in the derby with a sore foot? AND HE STILL BEAT THAT PIECE OF CRAP ATSWHAT.... now that is what I am talking about... :D

Jazil would have won the other division which went two seconds slower. He was good enough to win today he just ran into a horse running a huge race.

It was man, and it was a good call not to get talked off your bet. Take that money, buy some beer, grab some hot girl, show her that fat wad and close another deal.

lol im sure he would have won the other division, i can find a 15k claimer in ny that could have been competitive in the other division

Take your own advice. :eek:

Haha!!! J/K babe. :D

Hey, did you see that Gotta Luv Carrots is running in the 1st at the OBS on Monday?

i dont wanna hear excuses about the horse having a sore foot. you work with horses buffy dont you think every horse that runs as hard as those who compete in the derby all have some kinda ailments? lol you saw the race in person glad you enjoy it but i saw it was well on tv, whats your point? i also saw monarchos win the FL derby against NOTHING and then the derby and heard for 2 weeks how he was better than point given LOL.


i saw war emblem in person several times did you? lol and i was NEVER impressed with that horse. they opened up the rail for him like a parting sea in the belmont and he still couldnt get the TC

Please do then, you could make a lot of money with him. The fact is out of 14 horses spread among two races he was second best and happened to run into a horse running a 110+ Beyer.

I still like Monarchos better than Point Given, so there. :p

Hmm, thought he had him longer than that. Either way, he'll forever be the horse that destroyed a major score in the Forego for me!

lol well i like my horse better than any other horse in the world and the best he could do was break his n3/l:)

This pretty much explains it all.

--Dunbar

WHATEVER YOU SAY...............just off the top of my head i will name 15 horses i'd MUCH rather have then jazil, current horses that are in training



no biz
latent heat
corinthian
chatain
invasor
discreet cat
hard spun
round pond
boca grande
dreaming of anna
e z warrior
ravel
sun king
tiz wonderful... even with the injury
showing up
the tin man...even at the age of 115
english channel
premium tap
street sense
keyed entry
there thats more then 15

Keyed Entry? Heh.

I'll always pull for the horses bred by Two Bucks Farm, so that's probably why. :o

(Same reason I follow Cotton Blossom.)

no lava man? lol

well cajun and buffy i will say 1 thing about EM, i wish we hada gotten to see the horse try the lawn

yes lava man
fairbanks
anything bye giants causeway
go between
wait a while
lady of venice
there are 100 more

Now you're just being silly.

lol i am not , i have been planning on buying a horse now since i was 19, and if i could right now i would take anything i mentioned over jazil

Remind me not to invest any money with you.

lol ok

man this thread is a happening place

I think it should be locked and we should all pretend we never saw it.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

Point Given-

I didn't feel like re-reading the entire thread but I'm guessing there's a few posters who ate crow. I was with you on Jazil being overrated; maybe not the biggest ever, but he's now burned odds on money in two NW2Xs, so I think it would be very difficult to say he hasn't been overrated by the general public.

You could also say Empire Maker beat AtswhatI'mploddingbout with a bad foot and a wide trip, which he did. The fact he got beat by Man Among Men in his 3rd start, as a green baby, looking at the grandstands is irrelevant, Man Among Men was a nice horse, and Ats surely never beat much better than him, anyway after that Sham Stakes they put the blinkers on Empire Maker and the result was his Florida Derby, Ats could NEVER run a race like that, he was a plodding, suck up piece of crap, the proverbial woulda, shoulda, coulda. Ats also finished 4th in the Derby, the distance challenged Peace Rules, who was also ten times the horse that Ats rat was, also beat him despite battling for a mile and a quarter. Empire Maker was a Classic winner, won 3 Grade 1's, was never off the board and he's a faker. What the hell did Atswhat EVER accomplish? Ten Most Wanted could have gone around the track again and he was NEVER getting by Empire Maker, watch the replay, he could only get as close as his neck and Empire Maker pulled away again when he saw him. I just don't get how you can diss a horse like Empire Maker with what he accomplished and call him a fake, while turning around and praising a hanging rat like AtswhatI'mtalkingabout!!!! Their not even in the same league in accomplishments or talent!

I don't think that there were too many people here (or any) talking about Jazil being a mortal lock or anything, so there isn't much crow to eat for anyone.

I think the point most were making is that you don't have to **** on another horse just because it's not the horse you like in a race. Most racing fans don't generally appreciate that.

people complain about speed, speed, speed and then diss Jazil.. If only there was top class action over 12f like the good old days..he'd do extremely well. Invasor would still probably smoke everyone though at 12

If he would have ran 12fl today he would have gotten beat by 20.

He was up and down while Corinthian was incredible

Hes 21 years old. He'll learn that there are better ways to talk up a horse like Corinthian and diss a horse we all knew was going to be badly overbet.

I give him kudos for being able to identify that Jazil was a bad win wager today. I wouldnt say he had zero chance but in my opinion at 4/5 he was one of the worst win wagers I have seen this year.

This guy took the obvious horse to beat him and put up a lot of money and got paid.

Maybe next time, he will do it in a more likeable way like Mermaid does.

PS- What was up with the King of Jazz being 7/2? Who is the King of Jazz?

One of them worked.....the fabulous Harlington...

Harlington
Your Comment: Rahy-Serena's Song (BH conf. series)

Date: 02/08/2007
Track: WINDING OAKS FARM
Distance: Three Furlongs
Time: 38:40 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/7

Brother Derek is the biggest overrated horse in my book!

A couple of Brother Derek's '06 performances were very overrated....however, he's a little better horse than Jazil....whom he dead-heated with, for 4th, in the '06 Derby.