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Originally Posted by boldruler

The only smart thing I read on this entire thread.

Wasn't smart, it was dumb!!!

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I don't think anyone is meaning to throw cold water on your enthusiasm, Oracle, but there are plenty of well-bred (better bred than this one, though he's well-bred himself, obviously) babies that haven't even begun serious training yet. As for Todd's other 2 year olds, again - they look like the typical, precocious colts that we all get excited about (and understandably so - I love 2 year olds; they're so promising and it's fun when you latch onto one) early on. So far, Out of Gwedda and Scat Daddy are fast, but we've seen these types before - they end up fading once the distances lengthen and the blue-bloods start showing up. Take my comments with a grain of salt, though - I just have a problem, period, giving any horse any race (this is nothing personal against Circular Quay) or over-hyping them off of a few starts.

Todd actually also has a very nice 2 year old filly named Rags To Riches; she's a 1/2 to Jazil and ran a sneaky good fourth on Belmont Day at Churchill Downs (after a slow start and wide trip). She's one who will certainly love longer distances..........It does seem like every spring we say that Pletcher will dominate the baby races and he does......the early ones. Come the longer, bigger Fall races, others have passed his babies by.

Betsy its posts tlike these that cause any knowledgable person to scoff at pedigree nuts like yourself.
You still think those :better bred" horses wanna tangle with CQ?

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Betsy its posts tlike these that cause any knowledgable person to scoff at pedigree nuts like yourself.
You still think those :better bred" horses wanna tangle with CQ?

I don't want to ignore you, Oracle, but I purposely deleted my posts about CQ (that I typed after the Hopeful) because I don't feel like getting into any more arguments with anyone (and that's what always seems to happen when I have a different opinion than anyone). Therefore, all I can say is that at least for this particular race you were right.

Betsy,
I respect your love for the game and love of studying breeding.
Obviously anyone who ignores pedigree aspects altogether is crazy.
But if the game were as simple as simply picking out "the best" pedigrees every year. Then only the richest owners would have any success.
The fun of this game is watching horses like Afleet Alex turn into stars despite humble beginnings and humble pedigrees.
I think that those who watch races and handicap races vs. those who rate horses on pedigrees has been an age old battle that will never end.
I love to see a talented horse perform, whether it is a regally bred horse like Bernadini or one like Afleet Alex who has "no pedigree".
When I made the posts I made on CQ this past June I took a heck of a lot of grief, and there were many yesterday rooting against CQ so they could tell me I told you so.
I layed claim to him being "my horse" minutes, not hours, after he broke his maiden. I knew in his debut that I had seen a special horse. And whether its Bernadini or CQ, when you lay claim to a horse being "your horse", the pride you feel when he wins a grade one is much greater than any ticket you could ever cash.
Good luck with future bluebloods, I'm sure many will win.

At Churchill a Thursday, a most usual day,
'Til he stepped in the gate, a most talented bay.
He broke a step slow, but that is his style,
The others ran off, for just a short while.
At the 3/8 pole he started to run,
With his mouth wide open, and just havin' fun.
At the 1/8 pole, it was over for good,
I got so excited, I think I got wood.
I said to a friend, to a friend I did say,
Remember the name, it is Circular Quay.

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

You're awesome man!

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

He had me at Hello.

Just a warning, I hear a lot of people pronounce Quay like Key.

I don't know which is correct but just to be on the safe side you might want to have an alternate rhyme in the works. :cool:

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Just a warning, I hear a lot of people pronounce Quay like Key.

I don't know which is correct but just to be on the safe side you might want to have an alternate rhyme in the works. :cool:

lol. I ain't winning no spelling beas no time soon either.