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BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
This is just not true at all. You can't be serious. Weis chose Notre Dame, because he went to college there. He could have been coaching at many NFL teams, he didn't want to.

nope, 100% accurate

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
According to who? He was sought after by many teams, but he said he always wanted to coach at his alma mater.

wrong, he circulated his name throughout the NFL, no bites, none, zilch
so he left for college (2nd choice, or 33rd I suppose)

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Okay, since you say so, I'm convinced. Especially since you are backing it up so well.

ha, it's common knowledge for anyone who follows the game even on a casual basis, I apologize for your lack of keeping up
it was mentioned numerous times on MNF, NFL Today, etc.
This is like 2-3 years removed now, please try and pay attention

Danzig 12-14-2006 09:15 PM

After failing to land one of the nation's leading college coaching candidates, Notre Dame signed one of the NFL's top assistants.



WireImage.com
Charlie Weis is the first Notre Dame alum to coach the Irish since 1963.
New England Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis made it official Sunday night, becoming the first Notre Dame graduate to coach the team since Hugh Devore served as interim coach in 1963. Only Weis didn't play college football.

He signed with the Irish 12 days after Tyrone Willingham was fired and eight days after Notre Dame officials returned empty-handed after flying to Utah to meet with Utes coach Urban Meyer. Meyer signed with Florida instead.

Weis agreed to a six-year deal that will pay him $2 million a year, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports. His hiring ended an embarrassing two-week search by the Fighting Irish to find a coach for perhaps the most storied program in the nation.

The 48-year-old Weis arrived at the school Sunday night, just hours after the Patriots beat Cincinnati in Foxboro, Mass. Within an hour, he met with the players.

"Here's what we have to do. I believe there is a proper protocol, and right now, the most important thing is that I go talk to the players," Weis said. "So, tomorrow is our time for the press conference ... Let's do it tomorrow."

The players seemed excited about their new coach.

"It's nice to have a little bit of closure and know we have a coach and know what kind of system we're going to have next year," offensive guard Bob Morton said. "It's a good night for Notre Dame."

Weis told the players he'll be around as much as possible, but would be staying with the Patriots through the playoffs.

"He told us to have fun, finish things off right with our exams, have fun at the bowl game, enjoy break and come back ready to go," offensive tackle Mark LeVoir said.

In Foxboro after the Super Bowl champions' 35-28 win, quarterback Tom Brady told CBS, "Even though he's leaving I think everyone's going to enjoy these last few games and hopefully we send him out the right way."

Weis, who graduated in 1978, will attempt to restore Notre Dame to the powerhouse program it was when he attended the university as an undergraduate while Ara Parseghian and Dan Devine coached the Fighting Irish.

The door for him to return to Notre Dame opened when Willingham was fired on Nov. 30 after posting a 21-15 record over three seasons.

Willingham, who coached at Stanford before going to South Bend, returned to the Pac-10 by accepting the job at Washington on Sunday night. Willingham will match up against his former team when Notre Dame visits Seattle next Sept. 24.

Weis has been the Patriots' offensive coordinator for the last five seasons, which included two Super Bowl championships.

His stock has risen with New England's success, but the Patriots' long playoff runs have hindered his attempt at a promotion. An NFL rule prohibits assistants from being hired while their teams are in the playoffs.

The New York Giants and Buffalo Bills interviewed Weis in January, but they hired other coaches before the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Weis could have faced the same problem this year, since an NFL team might have had to wait until after the Feb. 6 Super Bowl to hire him.

Weis nearly died in the summer of 2002 from complications of gastric bypass surgery, commonly known as stomach stapling. The coach said one of the reasons he underwent the procedure was to make himself more marketable to teams looking for a head coach

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Wait, this can't be right.

what? that you're wrong...it usually always is:rolleyes:
see these other "top" programs have had trouble luring a coach too
but the media and other fans act like oh, oh this is not a primo gig
the Bama job ain't what it was~who on God's green Earth would want to
coach there, 2.2 million, top facilities, a team loaded for next season
with a top 15 recruiting class lined up? what fool would sign his death certificate to that dead-end, widow-maker of a vocation?

dr. fager 12-14-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
what? that you're wrong...it usually always is:rolleyes:
see these other "top" programs have had trouble luring a coach too
but the media and other fans act like oh, oh this is not a primo gig
the Bama job ain't what it was~who on God's green Earth would want to
coach there, 2.2 million, top facilities, a team loaded for next season
with a top 15 recruiting class lined up? what fool would sign his death certificate to that dead-end, widow-maker of a vocation?

Top 15? This is killing them...and a few are now opening up their recruiting...not sure where you got your numbers.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=9&c=14&yr=2007

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Obviously a typo, he meant top 34.

a) it was well into the top 10 before Shula was fired and then they got some de-committs, or wait-and see who the coach will be, so they took them off the signed list, thus the lower ranking
b) it's subjective, if you go how "scouts" ranks as gospel truth, it varies widely according to publication

back to Weis, an interview doesn't count as a bit, an offer does!

dr. fager 12-14-2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
a) it was well into the top 10 before Shula was fired and then they got some de-committs, or wait-and see who the coach will be, so they took them off the signed list
b) it's subjective, if you go how "scouts" ranks as gospel truth, it varies widely according to publication

back to Weis, an interview doesn't count as a bit, an offer does!

It is...rivals has them at 19...they haven't had any decommits yet that I know of but a pretty good LB/DL is visiting PSU soon.

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 10:28 PM

DrFager: thanks for that link to Scout.....It's good to see my boys in there at #8...with highest ranking quality of recruits(4.40) in the Nation! Rebuilding...HAH!

timmgirvan 12-14-2006 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
Ok, The Jets...winners of Super Bowl III, and only #III
and who was the MVP of that game? and where did he attend college?

I know this one!! Me? Me? OK...the Jets fan first!!:(

Cannon Shell 12-14-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I know, but I like to stir up trouble, why do you think I picked him?
Maybe Dennis Green? hes not doing so hot out in Zona.:D

Dennis Green not eligible to coach at Alabama, nor is Ty Willingham, Art Shell, Herm Edwards,etc.

Coach Pants 12-14-2006 10:43 PM

They could be orange for all I care, it wouldn't change the fact that they suck.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
They could always hire uscrules to coach. Rumor has it he is good.

Nah, he is waiting for the Cowboys job after Parcells quits.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2006 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
They could be orange for all I care, it wouldn't change the fact that they suck.

That is true!!! They wouldn't be racist to not hire these guys, they be smart!!!

BellamyRd. 12-14-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That is true!!! They wouldn't be racist to not hire these guys, they be smart!!!

ya know what, I always forget we're the racist state
Rodney King was beaten by Birmingham police
The Watts riots were somewhere in the Mobile Bay area
and Bernie Getz shot all those guys on a Tuscaloosa subway
thanks for reminding me!

Pointg5 12-15-2006 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
POINT G if you personally have not seen both UC's facilities or UA's facilities then you have no right to open your DAMN mouth about them!
I laugh when you open your mouth and pretend to know anything about horses, so why should this subject be any different...?


I didn't say that I have been to both facilities, this is from 2 guys that covered SEC schools, Georgia and Kentucky, why would they lie? I think I have found a new group of the most delusional fans, it was a tossup between UK Basketball Fans and Ohio State Football fans, but I think the Alabama fans are actually worse than both. It's not a bad job, but why knock yourself out trying to win in the SEC and deal with psychos like you, it's not an attractive job as you guys think.

And as for the horse comment, I have forgotten more than you will ever know...

BellamyRd. 12-15-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5
I didn't say that I have been to both facilities, this is from 2 guys that covered SEC schools, Georgia and Kentucky, why would they lie? I think I have found a new group of the most delusional fans, it was a tossup between UK Basketball Fans and Ohio State Football fans, but I think the Alabama fans are actually worse than both. It's not a bad job, but why knock yourself out trying to win in the SEC and deal with psychos like you, it's not an attractive job as you guys think.

And as for the horse comment, I have forgotten more than you will ever know...

ahh that old slight again huh?
ok well why did Dantonio bolt the first chance he had for the last place team in the Big Ten this year?
UC's facilities = River Downs
Alabama's facilities = Churchill Downs
"Point Given, NOT TODAY!"

Coach Pants 12-15-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
ahh that old slight again huh?
ok well why did Dantonio bolt the first chance he had for the last place team in the Big Ten this year?
UC's facilities = River Downs
Alabama's facilities = Churchill Downs
"Point Given, NOT TODAY!"

UC's facilities are ok, but to compare them to Bama's is an absolute homer move.

oracle80 12-15-2006 10:10 AM

What the hell difference do facilities make anyway?
Its football, not figure skating.
All you need is a weight room and a field for them to kick the **** out of each other on.
I don't see what difference it makes.
As far as the coach search goes, they will get a top notch coach sooner or later. Its too good of an opportunity for someone not to take it.
BUt again, if the job is as great as Bama fans are claiming, then why is it still open instead of being immediately filled by guys trying to get in? Isn't that really the proof in the pudding that perhaps Bama fans think its a better job than it is perceived by everyone else?

Pointg5 12-15-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
ahh that old slight again huh?
ok well why did Dantonio bolt the first chance he had for the last place team in the Big Ten this year?
UC's facilities = River Downs
Alabama's facilities = Churchill Downs
"Point Given, NOT TODAY!"

Your are a complete derelict...



Let's see why did Dantonio bolt???

#1 He was the second lowest paid BCS Coach behind Duke

#2 Why beg to get 27,000 people to come to your games, when you have 71,000 more than willing. He had to call people in Cincinnati to ask them to come to a game...

It's a no brainer, I don't blame him, Cincinnati is a Pro Football Town and College Basketball Town, it will never be a College Football Town and I don't pretend otherwise...

Dantonio even said that the facilities are as nice or better than Michigan State or OSU, both places he coached.

UC will max out at 35k attendance, so yes many schools have them beat that way, but for training and general setup, they have one of the best in the Country as stated by the anouncers on ESPN during one of the games, they couldn't lavish enough praise on the place, it just went through a huge overhaul.

And for the Bama fans questioning me have I been to Bama and them claiming to have better facilities than NFL Teams, how many NFL Facilities or other College Facilities have you toured. Just more nonsense from the Bama fans.

Pointg5=Realistic Fan
Bellamy Road=Bama Nut Job

Coach Pants 12-15-2006 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
What the hell difference do facilities make anyway?
Its football, not figure skating.
All you need is a weight room and a field for them to kick the **** out of each other on.
I don't see what difference it makes.
As far as the coach search goes, they will get a top notch coach sooner or later. Its too good of an opportunity for someone not to take it.
BUt again, if the job is as great as Bama fans are claiming, then why is it still open instead of being immediately filled by guys trying to get in? Isn't that really the proof in the pudding that perhaps Bama fans think its a better job than it is perceived by everyone else?

Only two coaches have declined. SC has better golf courses than Alabama and he's an egomaniac who doesn't want to live in the bear's shadow.

The other guy is a PW'ed stuttering boob who's got a mediocre record at best.

Our problem is there aren't many real men left in the coaching ranks. Most of them are intimidated by the bear and settle for less by coaching at some jugblowing, couch burning, ****hole on the side of a mountain.

dr. fager 12-15-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Only two coaches have declined. SC has better golf courses than Alabama and he's an egomaniac who doesn't want to live in the bear's shadow.

The other guy is a PW'ed stuttering boob who's got a mediocre record at best.

Our problem is there aren't many real men left in the coaching ranks. Most of them are intimidated by the bear and settle for less by coaching at some jugblowing, couch burning, ****hole on the side of a mountain.

...or spend too much time in strip bars.

Coach Pants 12-15-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dr. fager
...or spend too much time in strip bars.

He'd still be coach if the jesus freaks didn't overreact. So what if he likes titties, who doesn't? Besides the ESPN crew.

dr. fager 12-15-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
He'd still be coach if the jesus freaks didn't overreact. So what if he likes titties, who doesn't? Besides the ESPN crew.

I heard he was up for the ASU job and didn't get it.....

I'm not sure if UA fans are capable of laughing at themselves realizing a joke is a joke but I found this pretty funny.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger...craigslist.jpg

oracle80 12-15-2006 10:45 AM

I think you would find that many coaches are capable of winning chapionships at the college level if they ever start a playoff system.
The current system is really bogus. You haveto basically go undefeated or one loss and its more a function of who has what schedule in what year, where home vs away games are played with key opponents. If Mich was home this year vs OSU, Mich is playing. There has to be a better way.
4 team playoff would certainly be better than this.

ddthetide 12-15-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
I think you would find that many coaches are capable of winning chapionships at the college level if they ever start a playoff system.
The current system is really bogus. You haveto basically go undefeated or one loss and its more a function of who has what schedule in what year, where home vs away games are played with key opponents. If Mich was home this year vs OSU, Mich is playing. There has to be a better way.
4 team playoff would certainly be better than this.

correct every other division play it on the field. tonight should be a good game D1-AA Norhern Iowa- App. St., App. St tring to repete with a freshman qb.
the D-2 and D-3 games tomorrow should be good too.

Cannon Shell 12-15-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
ya know what, I always forget we're the racist state
Rodney King was beaten by Birmingham police
The Watts riots were somewhere in the Mobile Bay area
and Bernie Getz shot all those guys on a Tuscaloosa subway
thanks for reminding me!

Oh I forgot that Alabama was such a bastion of racial diversity and minority opportunity.

The Bid 12-15-2006 02:37 PM

Michigan isnt nearly the team Ohio State is, they were playing for Bo. Ohio State still essentially won by 10, they gave them the give me, bust spread touchdown at the end. Nobody in the country is with in 10 points of Ohio State.

BellamyRd. 12-15-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Oh I forgot that Alabama was such a bastion of racial diversity and minority opportunity.

well, Birmingham(the biggest city) & Montgomery (the capitol city) are both over 50% black in population, if the state were so racist as everyone claims, why would so many minorities live there? It's a "New" South that is very progressive and the yankees don't like it, because so many people are leaving the NE to move there because companies are moving there~maybe not AL so much but definately Atlanta, and the FL cities, although Birmingham is really taking off too as of late, as is Huntsville

BellamyRd. 12-15-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Michigan isnt nearly the team Ohio State is, they were playing for Bo. Ohio State still essentially won by 10, they gave them the give me, bust spread touchdown at the end. Nobody in the country is with in 10 points of Ohio State.

Illinios was, a 2-10 team ;)


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