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Dahoss 05-11-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164563)
You're right. I know nothing about you.

I post here with my real name.

I share my honest thoughts.

Own them when I'm wrong.

I'd like to know about you.

Who are you? What do you do? Where do you live?

What makes you tick?

Why should we all accept your opinions as gospel?

You have the luxury of getting personal with many people. Passing judgment on them.

Tell us about DAHOSS

Wife, kids, job?

Normally it should be none of our business.

That's the sanctuary of the internet. But you've crossed that line so many times.

And not just with me. I'm only around for brief snipets. But I check in and see you being VILE and HATEFUL to legions of others.

Attacking them personally.

Let's hear about you.

I live rent free in your head. That’s all you need to know about me.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164566)
Right ?

Hey Vic if you were getting paid to handicap a track and they had steeplechase races, would you do your job? Or cry it’s too hard and post No picks ? You know those big scary jump races that they have at Saratoga every year. And would you bully your cohost not to try it either ?

All because you couldn’t get free Phish tickets.

Hilarious

Dahoss 05-11-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164569)
What I ought to do. Is copy and post the private messages I receive on this site imploring me to not deal with you.

How they stopped participating because of you.

How they hate all the horrible things you say.

How they feel bad for me.

But that's where it stops. It's then I tell them I appreciate the sentiments. But I promise them it's OK. That I DON'T take anything you say to heart.

That it's the mindless distraction of the internet.

It's those people I feel badly for. They honestly care.

I could copy and paste 50 messages over the years from people who have been worn down by you and just given up.

Why does doing that to people give you such joy?

I agree. You should do it.

Let’s see what you have Vic.

Alabama Stakes 05-11-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164568)
All because you couldn’t get free Phish tickets.

Hilarious

He lies about going to 300+!dead shows as well as tickets to a place that is too big to sell out.

v j stauffer 05-11-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164566)
Right ?

Hey Vic if you were getting paid to handicap a track and they had steeplechase races, would you do your job? Or cry it’s too hard and post No picks ? You know those big scary jump races that they have at Saratoga every year. And would you bully your cohost not to try it either ?

I do get paid to handicap at a track. I would handicap camel races at Oaklawn if they asked.

What an incredible gift from god to be able to feed my family by going to the races every day and get paid to do it.

As for bullying. That person has stated publicly he was sorry for crossing the line that time and apologized. As far I'm concerned it's over.

Other incidents, where IMO the line is flirted with but not crossed is just good TV.

Nancy and I walk that same tightrope at Oaklawn and the racing public has responded very favorably.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164571)
He lies about going to 300+!dead shows as well as tickets to a place that is too big to sell out.

This is what jealousy looks like Vic

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164568)
All because you couldn’t get free Phish tickets.

Hilarious

His brother would have paid.

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164573)
This is what jealousy looks like Vic

I forgot about the supposed lying about number of shows I went to. That's like the cherry on top of the cherry!

The guy was literally at shows in Memphis and Birmingham with me....but it's inconceivable that I went to over 20 shows a year for the 14 years I was touring. Math is hard.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164574)
They're called PRIVATE messages.

I have respect for the people who sent them.

It does say alot about the power, well it's not power, intimidation is a better word, that people don't want to waste their time dealing with you.

They clearly are smarter than me.

Please tell the truth. You can't REALLY think I care about anything you say?

You can't REALLY think that?

You’re the one that said you should print them. I’m just agreeing with you big guy.

You keep saying you don’t care, yet earlier you begged me to leave you alone.

Maybe stop trying to convince yourself because you’re not convincing anyone else.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164578)
I never post here any more because it's simply a no win situation. There are just too many a-holes here. Who wants to deal with guys like Da Hoss? They make the site a totally unfun experience. I put much of the blame on Steve. I have no idea why he allows all the bullying. If this was my site I would never allow it. I'm surprised you are willing to put up with all the abuse. Keep up the good work! And don't let the haters get you down!

Haskell or The Travers. Epicenter looks like a horse who could win another 4 races this year. I wouldn't want to risk that by running in the Preakness. What do you think? PS: It's a shame we can't have these discussions on the board. But there are just too many pricks on there.

Hello Mr Stauffer,

I see you had a nice exchange with
Derbytrail's dynamic duo.

I know I'm no one to anyone here,
but I know from personal experience now
that these 2 troubled souls
are not worth anyone's time.

Sorry you had to find that out too .

That's just the last few weeks.......

So much for not posting private messages

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164579)
CRICKETS......What a shock!

Oaklawn must be proud to have you as an employee. You represent them very well

v j stauffer 05-11-2022 10:36 AM

HOSS

I can prove to you I think this is all in fun and I don't take it to heart.

Let's SHOCK THE WORLD and call a truce. A Detente!

From this post forward let's make believe we are both brand new posters.

That we know nothing of anything that has ever been said.

I forgive you for anything bad you've said about me or anyone else.

You do the same.

In the old days of bowling it was called a fence. Draw a line after the 4th frame and start anew.

I think this could be a great site if we were civil to each other.

Let's give it a try. How about a 30 day cease fire?

Just the trading of horse racing views and opinions without personal attacks.

Let's show DERBY TRAIL we can be bigger than the petty sniping.

Let's start right now with this olive branch.

Deal?

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:37 AM

I’d post all the private messages and texts I have from people but I don’t betray trust like that.

Says a lot about someone’s character that would.

But I don’t matter.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164585)
HOSS

I can prove to you I think this is all in fun and I don't take it to heart.

Let's SHOCK THE WORLD and call a truce. A Detente!

From this post forward let's make believe we are both brand new posters.

That we know nothing of anything that has ever been said.

I forgive you for anything bad you've said about me or anyone else.

You do the same.

In the old days of bowling it was called a fence. Draw a line after the 4th frame and start anew.

I think this could be a great site if we were civil to each other.

Let's give it a try. How about a 30 day cease fire?

Just the trading of horse racing views and opinions without personal attacks.

Let's show DERBY TRAIL we can be bigger than the petty sniping.

Let's start right now with this olive branch.

Deal?

You’ve posted this probably 15 times over the years. You know the answer.

But you don’t take it to heart. LOLOLOLOLOL

v j stauffer 05-11-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164587)
You’ve posted this probably 15 times over the years. You know the answer.

But you don’t take it to heart. LOLOLOLOLOL

None of that matters.

Are you man enough to move forward in a positive manner?

Just 30 days?

You can keep notes and rip me on the 31st day.

Let's do it for the other people on the site.

C'mon. Let's do it.

I think it will be fun.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164588)
None of that matters.

Are you man enough to move forward in a positive manner?

Just 30 days?

You can keep notes and rip me on the 31st day.

Let's do it for the other people on the site.

C'mon. Let's do it.

I think it will be fun.

No. I’ll post how I want when I want.

You’re back to pandering. Be yourself. Stop trying so hard to be nice. You’re not fooling anyone here.

Alabama Stakes 05-11-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1164581)
I forgot about the supposed lying about number of shows I went to. That's like the cherry on top of the cherry!

The guy was literally at shows in Memphis and Birmingham with me....but it's inconceivable that I went to over 20 shows a year for the 14 years I was touring. Math is hard.

Get your almanac out and check off your shows and do a count. It won’t be over 300. You forget that I’m your age and know how hard it was to get off work or around classes to go to shows. There may have been years when you hit 20, but not every year and you know it. My guess is around 200 tops. Math is hard, but counting should be easy. If you can honestly do that, I’d believe it. I doubt it. The question is , why lie about it ? Whst year was the most shows? Least number you attended ?

Dahoss 05-11-2022 10:56 AM

“Get out your almanac”

LOLOLOLOL

You’d think after embarrassing yourself the other night your hiatus would have been longer Dan.

v j stauffer 05-11-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164589)
No. I’ll post how I want when I want.

You’re back to pandering. Be yourself. Stop trying so hard to be nice. You’re not fooling anyone here.

Stop trying so hard to be nice?

Why would I do that?

I AM trying to be nice.

My offer stands.

Look here's a perk.

You can still be totally HATEFUL to everybody else.

Let's just you and I be civil for 30 days?

Deal?

Alabama Stakes 05-11-2022 11:00 AM

He doesn’t make deals. He doesn’t acknowledge the white flag. He won’t ever let it go.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 1164593)
Stop trying so hard to be nice?

Why would I do that?

I AM trying to be nice.

My offer stands.

Look here's a perk.

You can still be totally HATEFUL to everybody else.

Let's just you and I be civil for 30 days?

Deal?

Serious question…after seeing your performance today do you think Oaklawn is happy with how they’re being represented online?

Dahoss 05-11-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164594)
He doesn’t make deals. He doesn’t acknowledge the white flag. He won’t ever let it go.

Such a victim.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 11:32 AM

Looks like Vic deleted a bunch of his posts.

Hmmm…wonder why.

jms62 05-11-2022 01:01 PM

Vic sure has a unique Posting Style. [STOP]

It is reminiscent of the Telegraph Operator on the Titanic. [STOP]

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164566)
Right ?

Hey Vic if you were getting paid to handicap a track and they had steeplechase races, would you do your job? Or cry it’s too hard and post No picks ? You know those big scary jump races that they have at Saratoga every year. And would you bully your cohost not to try it either ?

Dan, I get that you're a very stupid guy. You forget, I know you, so I speak from experience. However, this is even moronic for you. The reason I don't make picks in the Steeplechase races is that I have no level of expertise in those races and feel the betting public deserves better than my lack of relative understanding. As such, I went out and hired an expert. It's actually more work for me, as I have to learn enough about those races to lead him during both Talking Horses and prattles. However, I respect the public enough to at least try to do what is best for them. No, I don't bully my regular cohost, this too is idiotic, as I have another cohost for the jump races, one who is an expert in the field. The people in charge of jump racing are, not surprisingly, extremely pleased that I take their racing seriously enough to do this. The idea that you can't make these logical conclusions for yourself speaks volumes about both who you are and who you think you are.

But, hey, keep tweeting this idiocy to Pat McKenna. He now knows what you are as well.

Alabama Stakes 05-11-2022 01:37 PM

What a cop out. Why wouldn’t you even bother to give it a try at some point. They got rid of the last 2 fences so you have no excuse now . Does it bother you and Pat McKenna that the attendance at Saratoga is 99% white and there is no attempt for some diversity, only at generating more income ? Does it bother you that the prices for all the fancy spots up there are too high to even list ? You’re in a position to look out for the players, but you don’t. As long as you keeping grabbing that $5grand a week check, you’re good. Every man has his price.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164604)
What a cop out. Why wouldn’t you even bother to give it a try at some point. They got rid of the last 2 fences so you have no excuse now . Does it bother you and Pat McKenna that the attendance at Saratoga is 99% white and there is no attempt for some diversity, only at generating more income ? Does it bother you that the prices for all the fancy spots up there are too high to even list ? You’re in a position to look out for the players, but you don’t. As long as you keeping grabbing that $5grand a week check, you’re good. Every man has his price.

I didn’t think you could make a more embarrassing post than when you accused me of preventing Byk from getting a TV gig.

I was wrong.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1164602)
Vic sure has a unique Posting Style. [STOP]

It is reminiscent of the Telegraph Operator on the Titanic. [STOP]

I laughed out loud.

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164604)
What a cop out. Why wouldn’t you even bother to give it a try at some point. They got rid of the last 2 fences so you have no excuse now . Does it bother you and Pat McKenna that the attendance at Saratoga is 99% white and there is no attempt for some diversity, only at generating more income ? Does it bother you that the prices for all the fancy spots up there are too high to even list ? You’re in a position to look out for the players, but you don’t. As long as you keeping grabbing that $5grand a week check, you’re good. Every man has his price.

You're a posting tragedy. Even when faced with the honest truth you continue to embarrass yourself. I made picks for years, as you know, and they sucked....so I found a better way to present it. What's next, you pretending I don't take my job seriously? It's clear you are prepared to embarrass yourself continuously, so why not?

I've lowered myself enough responding to you. You're a bad person Dan. What you did to me is beyond disgraceful. I get faceless idiots smearing me. It comes with the job. We were friends....and you turned into a backstabbing piece of garbage because a late ticket request, on one of the biggest Saturdays of the year, wasn't fulfilled. You can pretend this isn't true, but you know it is, and so does every other honorable person here. If you have even one moment of introspection, you will see the sad truth in this.

Still, it's not too late. A simple apology and an ability to move on would be enough for a second chance. The ball is in your court. However, this offer only lasts until your next smear and lie.

Alabama Stakes 05-11-2022 02:41 PM

I tried that and you screamed “security, security “ in front of the jocks room. As if I was gonna give you a slap . Remember?

Dahoss 05-11-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164613)
I tried that and you screamed “security, security “ in front of the jocks room. As if I was gonna give you a slap . Remember?

15 years on boards and you have ZERO friends to show for it.

What does that tell you?

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164614)
15 years on boards and you have ZERO friends to show for it.

What does that tell you?

He's a lying piece of trash. Nothing he says is true.

I tried. I'm done.

Alabama Stakes 05-11-2022 03:11 PM

Unreal that would deny screaming Security. It’s not the first time you did it either. Maybe we should ask Paul Cornman . He got the same treatment from you.

Dahoss 05-11-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1164604)
What a cop out. Why wouldn’t you even bother to give it a try at some point. They got rid of the last 2 fences so you have no excuse now . Does it bother you and Pat McKenna that the attendance at Saratoga is 99% white and there is no attempt for some diversity, only at generating more income ? Does it bother you that the prices for all the fancy spots up there are too high to even list ? You’re in a position to look out for the players, but you don’t. As long as you keeping grabbing that $5grand a week check, you’re good. Every man has his price.

This post needs to be examined further.

Saratoga is 99% white? Not sure where you get your numbers from since you're there for 2 days every year, but I digress.

What should they be doing to change that?

jms62 05-11-2022 03:57 PM

Steeple Chase racing will bring that Diversity.

Saratoga needs to become more like the bastion of Diversity.

Far Hills New Jersey.

blackthroatedwind 05-11-2022 05:02 PM

Mic drop


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