Oaks/Derby double... Stellar Wind-AP.

That is all.

Not to be rude, but are you really gonna play that? I mean, if it comes up Wind / AP, you are looking at getting 40$ or 50$ back on $4

Anyone know if they have the 2 day pick 3 this year?

http://www.churchilldowns.com/racing...mes-wager-menu

Yes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...9dd_story.html

had no clue Shah was a local boy....Vienna, VA

-bt-

Thoughts on Firing Line? I am leaning towards him with 5 days to post.....love the preps....ran right with the favorite in here and it sounds like they are training him to rate off the pace

Not even that. Last year the chalk P3 paid $4.25 per $50c. Everyone had those 3 in their wheels. I won and lost money. The double was $5.70 per $1

He's in my top 3, at the moment

I'd love to see odds on a prop bet that he'd finish ahead of Dortmund, which I believe can very well happen.

Great up to date workout recap from the Courier Journal:

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ates/26363729/

That's the daily notebook from the Communications Office. Available at kentuckyderby.com without the hoopjumping req'd at the C-J:

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/news/20...-draws-field-1

Darren Rogers Communications Dept. twitter feed with links to all the press releases: https://twitter.com/DerbyMedia

Tale of The Verve was entered in the Ky Derby and is now 2nd on the bubble:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...d-for-ky-derby

A horse with 0 points might make it in.


--Dunbar

FWIW, I'm less confident now that Dortmund will be "significantly overbet". With post positions considered, and most of Dortmund's toughest competition drawing poorly, I'd make Dortmund a 9-2 fav in a no-vig line. So, if he goes off at 4-1 or higher, I wouldn't think that's "overbet".

--Dunbar

Any word on El Kabeir?

He'll be fine but no Preakness. Issue was a quarter crack on the inside of the hoof. Was with Terranova before Derby as it happens and he said he'll concentrate on down the road opportunities. Nothing set as target yet. He was disappointed but not heartbroken. Just hopes he gets back with another 3yo.

5/9/15 (BEL): Peter Pan

Madefromlucky (Pletcher)
Two Weeks Off (Pletcher)
Stanford (Pletcher)


5/16/15 (PIM): Preakness Stakes

American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza)
Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
International Star (Maker/Mena)
Divining Rod (Delacour)

Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
Materiality (Pletcher)
Carpe Diem (Pletcher)
Competitive Edge (Pletcher)
Bodhisattva (Corrales)


6/6/15 (BEL): Belmont Stakes

Keen Ice (Romans)
Mubtaahij (de Kock)

I hope at least one of these two runs.

I would love to see Materiality run back, with a clean trip he is a huge threat in the Preakness.

He'd be on all my tickets. I think TWO has a lot of potential too.

I think Stanford plays a huge role in the Preakness if he goes. No way he even comes close to winning but changes everything from a pace projection. Two weeks off is very interesting

Pat Cummings mentioning on Twitter that Mubtaahij is pointing to Belmont

Belmont Derby?

Potential Preakness field perhaps half that of Derby
Jay Privman

Just as in the Kentucky Derby, it looks like trainers Bob Baffert and Todd Pletcher will determine the complexion of the Preakness Stakes, though unlike the Derby, the Preakness is shaping up as having a field perhaps half the size of the Derby.

Eighteen charged out of the gate in the Derby, with favored American Pharoah prevailing over Firing Line, with Dortmund third. As of Monday, those three were all pointing to the Preakness on May 16 at Pimlico. But potential challengers are sparse for the second leg of the Triple Crown. There are seven others whose connections are currently looking at the Preakness, but their degree of interest ranges from certain to merely possible.

Three potential runners – Carpe Diem, Competitive Edge, and Materiality – are all trained by Pletcher, but it is highly unlikely he would run all of them. All three would be coming back on two weeks’s rest. Carpe Diem was 10th in the Derby, Materiality sixth, while Competitive Edge won the Pat Day Mile earlier Saturday at Churchill Downs.

Other potential Preakness runners include Bodhisattva, Danzig Moon, Divining Rod, and International Star.

There are some jockey assignments that need to get ironed out. If Pletcher runs just one horse, John Velazquez likely would ride. If he runs more than one, Velazquez would have to choose.

Similarly, if Danzig Moon and Divining Rod run, Julien Leparoux would have to choose. As of Monday, Divining Rod was certain to run, Danzig Moon merely possible.

Full story -- plus a field box with horse, trainer, jockey, and last start -- up soon at www.drf.com

International Star OUT of Preakness with ankle chip
Marty McGee , Churchill Downs , 2015-05-05 - DRF Live

INTERNATIONAL STAR, the La. Derby winner who was scratched Saturday from the Kentucky Derby with a sore left front foot, was diagnosed this morning at Churchill Downs with an ankle chip in the same foreleg and will be sidelined indefinitely.

"This is a very depressing moment," owner Ken Ramsey said by phone this morning. "He was jogging unsound again this morning, and after we had extensive X-rays taken, a tiny chip about 2 millimeters in diameter was discovered. He'll have surgery, then 60-90 days off, then 30 more days stall rest. Best-case scenario would be a late-fall campaign."

Ramsey and trainer Mike Maker had said Derby Day they hoped the NY-bred colt would be past his soreness and able to run in the 140th Preakness at Pimlico on May 16, but clearly those plans have to be abandoned.

International Star won three straight stakes at Fair Grounds and was 24-1 in advance wagering for the Derby when he was withdrawn early Saturday.

Is Ramsey going to throw another infantile tantrum now?

Probably asks the trainer if he'll be ready for the Belmont.

What happened? Is there a link? Thanks in advance.

There's an article on drf

As Mark Casse seemed to hint, Danzig Moon will be a Preakness entrant..

Tale of Verve will run per Dallas after working this morning..

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blog ... %22%7D&wjb)

Doesn't work

Mr Z will not contest Preakness..

Thank God!

Direct quote from Mr Z?

Carpe Diem not running.

Privman drf post

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/14920

Wish Stanford was running so we can see an honest pace not Dortmund wearing down Firing Line and setting the table for American Pharaoh

Won't Materiality be prompting?

If I had to choose between which would DEFINITLEY go it would be Stanford. I don't see Castellano opening up and trying to go as fast as he can as far as he gain and hope no one follows. The only hope that Stanford would have is that scenario. Just my humble opinion.

Not if he doesn't enter the starting gate. There's talk of Grand Bili being entered...prompted the pace in two sprints so far.