the guard is leaving...

http://news.msn.com/us/nixon-orders-...-from-ferguson

There is no reason for Eric Holder to be there. There are officer involved shootings every day all over the country. Local authorities investigate and make a determination as to whether the shooting was justified or not. If they determine that the shooting was not justified, then the case is referred to the local DA to determine what charges (if any) should be brought.

Why should this case be any different? There should be an investigation and if they find the shooting was not justified, then refer the case to the local DA. If it appeared that the local authorities including the DA were not doing their job and that a person's civil rights may have been violated, it would be at that time that Eric Holder should come in and look into the case. Why is he there right now?

Two conditions are necessary for civil rights charges to be considered. The first condition is that justice was not served at the local level for whatever reason. There could be several reasons for this. Maybe the local authorities would not do their job or maybe they did do their job but the jury wouldn't convict for whatever reason.

So the first condition necessary for civil rights charges to be considered is that justice was not served at the local level. The second condition necessary is that there is evidence of a racial component to the crime. In this case, at this point, not only is there is no evidence that any crime was committed by the officer, but there is certainly no evidence that the officer shot the guy because he was black. There is no evidence of any racial bias on the part of this officer. This officer actually has a perfect record.

So for Eric Holder to be in Ferguson right now with 40 FBI agents is absurd. It is totally premature. Holder has no business with this case at this point. He has no jurisdiction. He should do what he did with the George Zimmerman case (with a little less meddling). He should stand back and let the local authorities do their job. If he wants to look over their shoulder a little bit to make sure they are doing their job, that is fine. But until and unless the two conditions I mentioned before are met, Holder should not be there and he should stay out of this case.

Yes, but in a long ago era..Back in mid 70's my father-in-law, a Baptist Minister from Ky gave me this book,Black Like Me..think i still have it somewhere in the attic..quite a read..also made a movie..here's the story..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me


and the movie..

Black Like Me 1964NR
A white man medically alters his pigment and reinvents himself as an itinerant black writer navigating his way through the South. Along the way, he experiences firsthand crushing racism and the incredible life force of the Afro-American community.

Cast:James Whitmore, Sorrell Booke, Roscoe Lee Browne, Al Freeman Jr., Robert Gerringer, Clifton James, John Marriott, Thelma Oliver

thanks.

...'how sassy they were becoming' geez!

forgive me for this one, a joke from the times..

My father-in-law preacher was also a funny guy, always had a funny story or joke to tell...one i remember...guy was walking down the street and runs into an old friend and says to him..' I hear you got married recently..guy says..'yep, sure did'..first guy asks him..'is she a nagger?'..guy says 'no she's a white woman':eek:

President Barack Obama sent no White House representative to the memorial Mass held yesterday in Rochester, New Hampshire, for James Foley, the American journalist beheaded by the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) terrorists.

President Obama, however, did send three White House aides to Monday’s funeral for Michael Brown, the 18 year old who committed a strong arm robbery and assaulted a police officer.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...urnalist-james

Such a rare occurrence as a high-ranking officer’s death should have warranted a great deal of attention from our Commander-in-Chief, but Obama has yet to make any public comments regarding his death. Not only has Obama been unable to make any comment about the General’s sacrifice, he also was unable to find the time to make it to General Greene’s funeral, held in Arlington National Cemetery. Obama himself was conspicuously absent, but so were the Vice President and the Secretary of Defense. The highest ranking and most senior member of Obama’s administration that found the time to pay respects to the General that was murdered by the enemy was Army Chief of Staff Ray Odierno.

This is beyond outrageous, and should be taken as a blatant slap in the face of every military member and civilian that knows and understands the tradition, honor, and respect that comes with military service. In what can only be a gross oversight, or else a belligerent middle-finger, Obama hasn’t even ordered flags to be flown at half-staff, like he did for the deaths of singer Whitney Houston, as well as the former communist and South African President Nelson Mandela.

There are no words to describe the amount of disrespect that was on display by Obama’s deliberate absence from the General’s funeral.






http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/greene.asp

Well, you know, in America we're supposed to believe all people are equal, which means a teenage boy's life is worth every bit as much as a 40-year-old journalist's.

The "robbery" is alleged as the video, if you watch all of it, appears to show him paying for his cigarillos, and the scuffle appears to be an argument over the price. At the absolute worst, it's shoplifting, not a "strong arm robbery" (nice work on parroting Fox News exactly; you make it clear where you get your news from). The store owner never reported a robbery; it was called in by a customer who witnessed the scuffle. The store owner was a bit befuddled when the cops showed up demanding the video, which they didn't demand until after Michael Brown had been shot dead in the street for jaywalking. But carry on with your character assassination of a young black man. You're in fine company; the NYTimes did quite a dance yesterday, trying to make the average teenager into a thug and the cop who killed him (who grew up in a criminal household and started his career on a police force so corrupt the city disbanded it and had the county take over) into a victim. It was astounding.

Good grief, if arguing with a bodega owner was a death penalty offense, half the people in NYC would be dead.

Actually four, counting Sharpton.

Apparently Obama thinks the kid's life was worth much more than the reporter's life. He sent 3 people to the kid's funeral and zero to the report's funeral.

It wasn't just shoplifting. He physically pushed the owner of the store. That is a "strong-arm robbery". And that's not why he got shot. He got shot because he assaulted the police officer and he charged the officer while the officer was pointing the gun at him and telling him to freeze.

You have gone so far to the left that now even the liberal NYTimes is too far right for you.

You are the one assassinating character. You are assassinating the character of the police officer (who has a perfect record).

Nobody is assassinating the character of Michael Brown. The truth is simply coming out now. We heard all these lies about this innocent kid being shot in the back. Now we are hearing the truth and you define that as "character assassination. :zz:

Wow. I didn't realize you witnessed the entire ordeal unfold - including being in two places at once, right before your eyes. You should have said something sooner, they've been looking for you!

The truth is, still, no one really knows what happened. and never will. But following your logic, clearly the cop bashed himself in the face to make the adult black man look bad.

It's amazing how you can continue to accept your emotions as fact. And only assume one side of the story is correct because that is what you want to believe.

You're sounding more and more like our dearly departed veterinarian.

I'm shocked that the Times ran this outrageous hit piece
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us...ries.html?_r=0

Not an angel???



I get into scuffles every time I argue with Bill over what he charges me for a bottle of Weller 107. We always laugh about it later.

Slide 2 you can clearly see he is trying to pay for whatever he has by grabbing the clerk by the throat and shoving the money down his collar.

After that "transaction" it's astonishing that the clerk didn't report the "poor child that ought to be in college" to the police.

But he didn't, therefore its RACIST to conclude that a crime occurred.

Ask Al Sharpton. Or GR.

Never miss an opportunity to politicalize a tragedy if it suits your needs.

With an election not too far away Dems need to shamelessly light a fire under the African American community while simultaneously screwing them up the ass, legalizing millions who will inevitably compete for the same jobs so sorely needed by those same African Americans.

And to be clear if Obama had a son he would look like neither Trayvon Martin nor Michael Brown but rather

He looks like a fine young man. I have no idea why everyone would look at that and think he's a thug. It's the strangest thing.

Does he deserve to be dead? From that video...no. but since this fine upstanding police dept conveniently has no video equipment anywhere...we'll never know will we

and the policeman who confronted him for jaywalking supposedly didn't know that the guy was a robbery suspect.
what really happened will most likely never be known.
i do hope that ferguson, and all other cities and municipalities will immediately order cameras. it would be a way of protecting both citizens and police.

There was a video that was shot right after the shooting. On the video, you could hear one guy explaining to another guy what happened. He said that the officer had his gun drawn and the guy came charging at the officer. I'm not 6'4, 295 pounds. I'm 5'9 and 150 pounds. I'm not nearly the physical threat that a 6'4, 295 pound guy is. Despite that, I know that if I am confronted by an officer and he draws his gun and tells me to freeze, if I don't comply and I charge at him, I'm probably going to get shot. That is just reality. When an officer has a gun on you and he tells you to freeze and put your hands in the air, it's probably not a good idea to go charging towards him. If you do, there is an excellent chance you are going to get shot.

Did he deserve to get shot? I don't really know how to answer that. If you engage in a behavior that is likely to get you killed, there is a good chance that you are going to get killed. Charging towards an officer who has a gun on you is likely to get you killed.

We should have taken odds on when the classic lib response would surface - not that it wouldn't - of course it would.

Take the only evidence that proves the suspect's thug-like behavior and tie it directly to the consequence of a completely different set of unverifiable circumstances.

That's all you know. He was a thug in the store and committed a strong-armed felony against the clerk/store-owner.

You have no friggin' clue what transpired between he and the cop - only that the cop has a busted skull and he's dead.

A + C = B


:zz:

I don't know Mike Brown or his situation other than that pretty much everyone I know has been in a fight or done something that was "wrong". One thing I do know, you will not find me supporting law enforcement when unarmed people get shot dead. Don't trust the people who are not there to protect or serve you.

Did you guys see this case? This case would normally really piss off some of our liberal members, but since the victim is white they don't care.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...utm_medium=RSS

The Daily Show's piece on Ferguson and race relations, for those who may not have caught it:

http://gawker.com/heres-the-daily-sh.../+jacobclifton

(video embedded). The real kicker is the last two minutes, when John Stewart tells of a Daily Show correspondent experience.

And, of course, this lovely bit of news about Ferguson's finest's continued sensitive response:

http://gawker.com/report-police-drov...t-d-1627639275

Was gonna post a note to dan to make sure to watch his tues return episode but had some puter problems yesterday..One of his best and right on...what a dickhead Hannity is:zz:..when he's stopped by a cop he always tells him he has a registered gun in the car and pulls up his shirt to show it:zz::zz:..but typical Faux b/s..

Gawker often posts just a highlight clip; good way to catch the pertinent bit without having to watch the whole episode. I mean, I'm not saying the interviews are usually boring, but the interviews are usually boring. ;)

Actually, here's the quite liberal The Week with a piece on it.

http://theweek.com/article/index/267...-a-white-youth

I assure you, liberals are equal opportunity outrage when it comes to police brutality.

I watch entire show at 11..agree half the time guests not interesting, but he has had some very good ones...i.e. Bill or Hillary, O'reilly,Fareed Zakaria and others..If not interested I tune out and come back for Colbert:)

:tro:

I'm going to miss The Colbert Report. When it started I thought, no way is he going to be able to maintain this concept for long, and look what it turned into. One of the great characters in television history.

Agree:tro::tro:..started out as one of the characters on daily show..

If we are to derive from this study that police are somehow racist because 32% of those killed were black despite only making up 13% of the population shouldn't we also derive police are misandristic? You know since 97% of those killed were men and only 3% women?

Where's the liberal outrage? ;)

The liberal media obviously did not care about the Utah case. They hardly covered it at all while they covered the other case non-stop.

Here is another case they didn't cover. Can you imagine if this was a mob of whites beating a black guy into a coma? It would be headline news.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/26/ir...brain-surgery/

Not only that, but it would be pronounced a de facto hate crime. Imagine the narrative: Two black men are advised to not enter a restaurant because they are black, and the white patrons inside are angry at black people. So, they leave, only to be followed by said white patrons, who, at the next restaurant, beat them while yelling racial slurs.

Sharpton would have booked his private jet within hours. All networks would be reporting live from the scene about the state of race relations. The DOJ would send dozens of agents and lawyers to investigate.

But no, nothing to see here. Move along, people. Move along.

The Michael Brown killing didn't get press in any major outlets until the protests started. The press coverage is because of the protesting, not because a cop killed a black man, since that happens pretty often in this nation.

There is no bigger piece of garbage in the human race than a race traitor.

It's abundant in the white race. These faux outrage professionals have turned on their race repeatedly and disregard blatant facts and evidence that portrays their minority victim in a negative light.

These losers are too narcissistic to actually do the world a favor and kill themselves. Instead they have to bully their own race and throw them under the bus at every opportunity.

Rest assured that smart whites are aware of these losers. They will be handled appropriately when their campaigns of "equality" backfire on them.

Not nearly as often as blacks killing other blacks.

But who gives a **** about that. It doesn't fall in line with your ultimate goal of white genocide.

Or, you know, it could be that it IS being investigated by the FBI as a hate crime, an arrest has already been made and the guy's buddy appears to lying through his teeth about how many assailants were involved. Compare that to Michael Brown's body being left in the street for four hours and the cop not even bothering to fill out an incident report about killing him.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...elated_stories

That took me less than 5 minutes of Googling.

Good find. Interestingly, a search using "David Knighten Ralph Weems" on the websites of CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and MSNBC came up empty. Thank goodness the TP is on the story.

"Lying through his teeth" about how many were involved? It might be a matter of perspective. Getting the crap beaten out of you will do that.

He appears to be "lying through his teeth"? He estimated there were 20 people. All the article says is that the video appears to show that there were far less than 20 people. So if there were only 10-12 people beating them, then he was lying? Does it matter whether there were 10 vs 20? I'm sure if the victims in this case were black, you would be accusing them of "lying through their teeth" if they only got beat up by 10 white guys, and not 20. LOL.

I find it hilarious that you don't want to believe the facts of this case, yet you desperately want to believe the supposed facts of the other case. Why would it make you feel good to believe that there is a lot of white on black crime but not a lot of black on white crime? That doesn't make any sense. I personally wish there was no crime. But unfortunately there is plenty of violent crime out there and there is at least 10x more black on white crime than white on black crime. Does it pain you to accept that?

Hey Dell why do you do if this was your daughter?

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...hone.khou.html